Which great fighters to all intents and purposes ducked no one?

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    He turned down that fight with Taylor because he felt it should've been a 50/50 split. Winky has gotten to where he is the hard way. He spent alot of his career fighting overseas or on RJJ undercards. He's finally a known commodity. He's not going to take less than 50% from a guy who isn't a big draw, and that he felt he already beat. Guys like Winky Wright don't duck people.
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    People like Oscar have to duck people. He can't risk losing against someone who isn't a know commodity. Oscar ws already a name when he came into boxing. This allowed to dictate his career at young age. He built up a huge following, and has been able to keep up that following by fighting exciting fights against big names. He ducked Winky when they were at JMW because Winky was an relative unkown, defensive minded southpaw, who would've made Oscar look bad. I'm not putting Oscar down, he's done what people in his position should do.
     
  3. BigReg

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    Wright loss to Vargas in 99 and didn't lose again until a couple of weeks ago. In 2003 Wright was the IBF champ and DLH was the WBA/WBC champ. A fight between the two would've created an undisputed champ. Oscar and Arum said nobody wanted to see the fight, and Oscar opted to fight Yory Boy Campas instead.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You're saying excatly what I said earlier, except you're renaming it "wait and see" instead of "ducking". Wait and see is a euphamism for ducking. I never said Oscar wasn't brave, but he did duck people. Beating Winky would've made Oscar an undisputed champ. He didn't because, like we both said, Winky was a big threat without a big name. Oscar would've never have fought Nard if Tito never got in the ring with him. Nard was a relatively big name when Oscar fought him. Oscar knew he could make some good money off of that fight without hurting his popularity had he lost.
     
  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    De la Hoya ducked rematches with Whitaker, Quartey and Strum (though he probably shouldn't have been fighting Strum in the first place).

    I always love bringing up the fact that after facing Whitaker, de la Hoya went on to face David Kamau, a 36 year old Hector Camacho, Wilfredo Rivera, Patrick Charpentier and a 36 year old Chavez who he had already beaten decisively. And all this mind you when he was heralded the no.1 p4p fighter in the sport!
     
  6. thunder06

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    Jake LaMotta. He was usually the one who was ducked. And Hagler as well.
     
  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More people thought he lost than won both fights.

    Oscar also fought conservative in both fights. He threw less punches than both Quartey and Whitaker in his fights.

    And please tell me how DLH would have done better numbers fighting the likes of Kamau and Rivera than Whitaker again. Bull**** he would have.
     
  8. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Hagler and Duran get my votes - they feared no one and would take ANY challenge. Out of current fighters Pacman and Cotto (thus far anyways but something tells me we can expect it to continue) are the first couple I think of
     
  9. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i would like to think that i could say

    Kostya Tszyu

    i think the only question mark was a rematch with Phillips but as far as im concerned by the time Tszyu had comeback Phillips had already lost the belt and had nothing to offer.

    Tszyu fought anyone anywhere. it was him that was more feared than any other. i mean by that big risk little reward.

    now we we know ODH was trying to get Tszyu eposure so they could have a mega fight. but once Tszyu got good again in 2000 ODH was nowhere to be found.

    Mosley skipped the 140 division while Tszyu was on top there and everyone thinks he didnt aviod him. what else would you call it. PBF had the option i feel to go after Tszyu but choose Gatti. and was quoted as saying he was waiting for Tszyu to get old like when Tszyu fought his uncle Roger. (but what got me in that comment Tszyu fought Roger when he was 34 years of age when they fought. when PBF made these comments that he was waiting for Tszyu to get old like Roger, Tszyu was already 35 years of age. what was PBF waiting for until his 36 birthday.

    anyway i feel Tszyu was avioded by a few men but these fans will never admit it because for me jumping from 135 to 147 to face Rivera and Wise instead of facing Tszyu who had just punished Gonzalez going to 147 seamed like the easy way out.

    Yet if Tszyu did this he would get ridocuoled to the end of time if he did that.
     
  10. kaygb

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    Putting Oscars name here is laughable. Tell me something. Why is it that the mighty "never ducked anyone" DeLa Hoya ever unified in his entire career?
     
  11. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    James "Lights Out" Toney.
     
  12. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    :good :good
     
  13. KTFO

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    Joe Calzaghe didn't deck anyone.
     
  14. retriever

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  15. Farmboxer

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    Klitschkos!!!!!!!