Which has more weight in your Personal P4p rankings?

accomplishment! "Opposition amigo"

 

Accomplishment.

Thats why JMM should be numero uno:smooch

 

Wait...you don't have an option for 'swag'? :huh

 

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So paper-titlist David Diaz who lost to a shot Erik Morales and a shot walking corpse in Oscar De La Hoya holds more weight than a past prime Joel Casamayor and primed Juan Diaz?

 

Recent accomplishments or else RJJ would still be pretty high on my list.

 

IN the true definition of p4p it should be ability. What you have to ask yourself is if there was some magical weight class where everyone fought and in this weight class all of their atributes as a fighter (power, chin, speed etc) were the same as in their respective weight calsses, who would win.

 

There is some truth to this. On the other hand, the only way we can perceive such things is through accomplishments. How do you see this 'ability' other than when the fighter fights against the very best opposition?

 

i agree. you may not be able to beat the best unless you have overall ability but at the same time, you may still lose even though you may have more overall ability. so beating the best is the best way

 

I would say overall CURRENT ability.

There could be fighters that have obvious class that outweighs their recent accomplishments if the fights aren't there for them.

 

Not a good idea to base it on ability because this is to subjective and just gives certain fans an opportunity to claim there favourite fighter is P4P No. 1 without the credentials to back it up.

 

I guess there must be a mix of the two, you can only really judge ability when the ighter has been in with quality opponents, but the style they show in winning counts towards it too.

e.g. Prime RJJ was rated PfP #1 as much because of how he won as who he beat.

 

I understand what you are saying but I have a problem with people that want to see a proven track record for something that is hypoheical.