Which Heavy Champ ?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Which Heavyweight Champ fought the most big punchers?
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Ali, Lous, Lewis.
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Jack Johnson has a prety good claim.
     
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    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    How so?
    I'm not too knowledgeable about him
    so I'd like to hear more.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Johnson fought the following fighters who were considered to be puncher's in their day:

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    Hank Griffin X3
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    Denver Ed Martin X2
    Sam McVea X3
    Sandy Ferguson X5
    Marvin Hart
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    Al Kaufman
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    Jim Jeffries
    Frank Moran
    Jess Willard
    Tom Cowler
    Jack Tomphson
    Bill Hartwell

    The guys highlighted in red were all smaller heavyweights under 175 lbs but their reputation as punchers means that they have to at least be considered.

    Most of the other guys on that list were at or over 200 lbs.
     
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  6. Flea Man

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    Holyfield fought a lot of solid fighters, with some very good punchers as well.

    Lewis
    Tyson
    Bowe
    Mercer
    Foreman
    Alex Stewart
    Bert Cooper

    And a couple more that would probably be considered 'decent' punchers at the weight.
     
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  7. PetethePrince

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    Ali
     
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  8. McGrain

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    Fitzsimmons landed with more devastating results than most of the men on that list - even the elites, like McVey, at a guess. That being the case, he belongs on the list regardless of stature. And given that Choynski was regarded by men who fought both him and Fitz as the harder puncher of the two, he belongs also.

    But there's no way Stanley Ketchel was a heavweight puncher.
     
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  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Fitz also had one foot in the grave by the time he fought Johnson. Meaningless win.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, and arguably he was not a puncher by that stage if his supernatural power came as much from timing and reaction as freakish power - and it seems to.

    But Johnson did face him, and he certainly was a puncher, or as a fighter he fits that description.
     
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  11. Flea Man

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    Am I the only one not big on Johnson at all? He looks pretty bad on film IMO as well.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Nah, Chris and Mendoza also don't rate him.
     
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  13. Flea Man

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    I have him in the Dempsey field (except Johnson has better competition) in the 'much less impressive than I thought they were going to be' camp.

    What about you McGrain? As a man who recently taught me all about balance (the truth) what parts of The Galveston Giant's style strike you as particularly effective? Who's the best fighter you could imagine him beating?
     
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  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali, Lewis, Jersey Joe Walcott deserves a mention.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Johnson,never a shrinking violet, refused to take credit for this one ,saying Fitz was " a grand old man ,but past it ".
     
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