Which Heavyweight ATG Has The Most Worst Loss?

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  1. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wladmir Klitchko (if you consider him a great hw)

    all 3 of his losses av got to be up there
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson had some bad loses and made a lot of ordinary guys look great, Douglas,Williams,McBride, Also Lewis getting Ko'd by McCall and Rahman ...Ali losing to Berbick and 5 win Spinks...although he was way past it......Holmes losing to Michael Spinks in Spinks 1st Heavyweight fight...Max Baer losing to Braddock....
     
  3. di tullio

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    :rofl:rofl
     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You completely neglected my question
     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All right then. If that is to be the criteria, then I'll go with Leon Spinks, who was no more of a contender for Ali's World Heavyweight Title than Evangelista was when he challenged Muhammad, except for actually getting the shot and winning it. (In fact, Max was further along when Daniels clobbered him than Leon was when he scored his upset.)

    Leon did win a Gold Medal in Montreal, but he was considered the least skilled of the US Olympians going in, and his stoppage of Sixto Soria was a massive upset. I thought Scott LeDoux won their draw, and he only beat Alfio Righetti by two points on each of the three cards. Compared to how Ali was at 230 for Jimmy Young, Muhammad was in what should have been adequate shape at 224 for Leon. As the July 1978 issue of World Boxing headlined, "
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    Aside from Ali, his biggest wins were:

    1) Mercado (which did legitimately earn him his shot at Holmes)

    2) Evangelista (who was far more experienced and credentialed by the time he and Leon squared off than when Alfredo challenged Ali off his first loss to Zanon)

    3) Righetti (27-0-0 Italian HW Champion-a reasonable UD win which got Leon to Ali)

    4) Kip Kane (which got him to Qawi)

    5) Franco Thomas (This was the penultimate bout of Franco's career. Never world class, but Thomas does have a strong case as West Virginia's second greatest native boxer after Fitzpatrick. Only stopped by an undefeated Dokes, a young James Broad, and in his swan song by Coetzer, finished a respectable 34[21]-8[3]-0.)

    I count Jesse Burnett as a loss, and it was indeed a flagrant robbery, tacitly acknowledged by the WBC in giving Burnett an immediate deserved shot at S.T. Gordon's CW Title.

    McCall and Rahman are coming up a great deal in this thread, but each has a number of other credible results, a good sum more than Leon ever managed. Leon was an amazing natural athlete with potential to be another Frazier given the proper ethic, but doesn't measure up to Rahman and McCall in terms of professional achievement when the biggest wins of all three are deleted.

    Braddock has too many good wins for his upset of Max Baer to be included. Latzo, John Henry Lewis II, Lasky over the championship distance, Griffths, Griffin, Slattery and Farr, and he didn't make it a cakewalk for Louis to dethrone him. The first four rounds of Louis-Braddock should be compulsory viewing for anybody considering Braddock-Baer.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You asked the wrong question. I answered the pertinent, more illuminating question that you failed to ask.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I just eat this up with a spoon.:lol:
     
  8. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What would you expect, stating Schemling was only a decent fighter at best as though it was a well acknowledged fact, when it is actually pure bull-****.
     
  9. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    was that meehan fight an exabition ?
     
  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Yes, it was billed as an 'exhibition'.
    But lots of boxing bouts in those days were, for legal reasons I guess.
    It was a charity event for the war effort, Navy.
     
  11. StillWill

    StillWill Dr. Eisenfaust Full Member

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    Sounds like the original James Toney.. :lol:
     
  12. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i feel the worst ever loss is Ali to Spinks.
    I mean Spinks had what...7 fights?
    At least Douglas was on a decent winning streak before beatign Tyson