Which heavyweight champion hurt his legacy the most by retiring in his prime or near

How about the exhibition Jeffries had with Ed Dunkhorst in which you say Jeffries ko'd him? Want to give us the lowdown on that one?

 

What does this say in English?:huh

 

Some names would be useful.

 

I can't definitely say without hope of contradiction that you aren't a blonde Red Indian from Cardiff
But I believe implicitly that you are dark haired and a Jock

Do you seriously believe Jeffries could have been persuaded to defend his title against Johnson?
I'm persuaded that Jeffries would never have risked his crown against a dangerous black challenger, he said as much in print many ,many times and Adam's books confirm it as much as anything can be confirmed.
I don't think I seriously over- estimate myself, I've many times said I'm an average poster.

 

How close were those fights to being made - Jeffries vs. Jeanette and/or McVey?

 

I already disproved it Jack Jeffries used the name Dunkhorst when he sparred in exhibitions with his brother in the Uk.Dunkhorst never visited the UK.Neither was he ever ko'd by Jeffries
I can produce a write up that states the Johnson v Smith exhibition including that punch was cooked up for publicity purposes how about that?

 

Jeannette was never a realistic challenger to Jeffries.After McVey kod Denver Ed Martin ,who had been the premier black challenger for a while,a promoter offered $30,000 guarantee for Jeffries to defend against him. Though he would have made more than he did for fighting Finnegan,or Munroe, Jeffries ignored it.
I think he was paranoid about the possibility of losing his crown to a black man.In refusing to defend against one ,Jeffries was following the lead of his predecessors , but only Sullivan before him had so openly said he would not defend against one.Jeffries made no bones about it, he many times stated he would not risk losing his crown to a black man,saying ,"when there are no more white challengers to fight ,I shall retire".
So a McVey fight was dead in the water before talks could even begin.

 

Thanks McVey. I feel comfortable going to you for information regarding the early 1900's heavyweight scene. For some reason that era seems very intriguing to me at the moment.

 

I'm just a fan,guys like Adam Pollack and Clay Moyle are the experts on that era,and Klompton on the 20's.

 

He wasn't his manager he was a premier promoter. You're right on one thing McVey's chances of getting a title shot were next to zero.Jeffries preferred fighting his sparring partnerJoe Kennedy and no hopers such as Finnegan and Munroe. Old Jeff was just as racist as you.:good

 

He preferred fighting 39 years old Fitzsimmons .One month off 37 years old Corbett.40 years old Goddard and 37 years old Jackson. No way was he fighting a young fresh guy who was over 200lbs and could hit. You're not a good poster ,and you're sh*t human being,a racist ****hole with the intellect of a chimp!

Found that report of Jeffries koing Dunkhorst yet?

 

wow, heavy shots being fired by two ships :rasta

arrrrrgh :bbb