Which heavyweight era had more talent, the Klitschko era, or the post-Klitschko era?

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Klitschko era or Post Klitschko era

  1. Klitschko era

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  2. Post Klitschko era

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The main names for the Klitschko era, as primarily suggested by MarkusFlores 99 (I added a couple):

    Wladimir Klitschko
    Vitali Klitschko
    Alexander Povetkin
    Corrie Sanders
    Chris Byrd
    Sultan Ibragimov
    Ruslan Chagaev
    Oleg Maskaev
    Samuel Peter
    Eddie Chambers
    David Haye
    Tony Thompson
    Nikolai Valuev
    Deontay Wilder
    Kubrat Pulev
    Derrick Chisora
    Robert Helenius
    Tomasz Adamek
    Juan Carlos Gomez
    Shannon Briggs
    Steve Cunningham

    The main names for the post-Klitschko era, as suggested by me:
    Oleksandr Usyk
    Tyson Fury
    Anthony Joshua
    Daniel Dubois
    Jospeh Parker
    Deontay Wilder
    Andy Ruiz
    Dillian Whyte
    Alexander Povetkin
    Agit Kabeyal
    Filip Hrgovic
    Big Bang Zhang
    Joe Joyce
    Derrick Chisora
    Mike Hunter
    Fabio Wardley
    Luis Ortiz
    Moses Ituama
    Charles Martin

    Please VOTE, and feel free to suggest any names you would like to see added.
     
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  2. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Post Klitschko easy, a bit overrated, but still much better.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Aside from the brothers themselves, Iggy, Chag, Byrd & prime Sasha clear everyone but Usyk in the post K2 era.
     
  4. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Given how Fury, Wilder, AJ and Usyk handled the post Klitschko era we honestly have no idea. This era very plainly failed to identify and sort the top fighters. For better or worse we don't have enough to make that evaluation.

    Even if the post Klitschko era was better a lot of the talent that would make it better is just reaching the top right now. Is someone like Kabayel or Hrgovic in their early 30s who hit the scene in the late 2010s part of the post Klitschko era? At what point is participation required to be part of an era?

    If we're going off fighters who were ranked and fought for tites and all that stuff the Klitschko era was better. Chisoras very presence on the post Klitschko list sorta proves that. If we're going to the regional level and counting everyone who was fightng the post Klitschko era probably wins.
     
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  5. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Difficult one as this era seems more exciting. Certainly sold that way from a Brit perspective. Klit era was quite boring in all honesty but maybe just from our point of view. Germans and Eastern Europeans probably loved it.
    However when you really look at quality, this era is not overly deep after the big names.
    So probably Klit era. As IntentionalButt says there was talent in that era.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    At the time, it was looked upon as a wasteland with a Klitschko or two on top. Remarkable how these things change with hindsight.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am trying to stay out and let people answer as they will, but this is the thing to me. Whereas this thread is just about talent, the Klit era has two giant super-talented brothers dividing up a bunch of other guys who were comparatively diminutive and mostly limited. I will go to my grave saying this is a better era because everyone stands on their own feet and frequently fight guys of comparable talent, but I am curious because it came up about which the community thinks had more raw talent.
     
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  8. cross_trainer

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    People always view past eras with rose tinted glasses, it seems.

    Even today, I find it difficult to imagine Usyk beating the Klitschkos. But I suppose he could have.
     
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  9. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Post Klitschko for me.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    This era is more exciting because the fights are more even.

    When the Klitschkos were around it was just one domination after another.

    But we have to bear in mind that the guys the Klitschkos were beating like drums in their primes were still competitive at the highest levels as old fighters in THIS era.

    Chisora got turned inside out by old Vitali, and he's been a force to reckon with after the Klitschkos were gone. Povetkin was dominated by Wlad and he sent one of the big hypes of the post Klitschko era, Whyte, to the shadow realm with a single punch. Povetkin also fought a rising talent, Hunter, to a standstill as an ancient fighter. Pulev, who Wlad devastated, has done relatively well as a fossil in this era. Charr, who Vitali bent over, was a minor champion until recently. Parker and Ruiz, who are technically 'part' of the Klitschko era, did well after the brothers left the scene.

    Clearly The Klitschko era looks weak because of the way the brothers dominated it.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    As soon as the Soviet brothers in the shape of Wlad and Vitali took over the HW division it became a ''terrible era''

    And just as I predicted it would at the time, as soon as that era ended and the Brits took over and the US regained a foothold back in the division, it instantly became a ''good era'' again.

    But then ever so unsurprisingly, as soon as the Soviet brothers regained control of the division again when Usyk The Incredible annexed every single belt in a division who these exact same clowns were so certain he was incapable of even winning one belt in, it immediately became a ''terrible era'' again
     
  12. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like a lot of the same characters crossed over.

    The K's fought for so long so it makes it hard.

    Probably not that different, someone drops out, another goes in.

    Wlad did fight the two gold medallists Pulev and Povetkin in their prime though. And they were old soon after that.

    Fury and AJ and AJ and Wilder never fought. The two K's never fought for actual reasons, but it made it weird also, where you could never clearly determine who would win.

    Let's be real, though, the K's took a lot of safe fights Fury would be utterly hammered for. Adamek the LHW? Charr who beat noone (and that cut stoppage was lame)? Pianeta (who Fury actually was hammered for even as a tune-up, that was a title fight for Wlad).
     
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  13. Rick’s Piano

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    Well I'll start by saying i prefer the post-klitschko era, way more entertaining and a competitive divison right now. I'm sure if you asked the klitschko brothers if they could choose what era they rulled over, either the 2000's-early 2010's or mid 2010's to now they would pick this era in a heartbeat. probably the reason Wlad's name is popping up every so often debating on a comeback or not.

    But to lead into ur actual question maybe Wlad's desire to comeback is that he see's a lack of talent or a way to get to the top easily. but Wlad's run by the late 2000's and early 2010's was looking pretty bad due to the divison being so weak. A lot of people are focusing on the klitschko brothers themselves but outside of the brothers I really don't think there were many entertaining fights going on worth watching in this divison.
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Usyk is the best from both eras but if you just look at the top 3, I have the Klitschko brothers and Povetkin above Usyk, Fury and Joshua. I think Vitali was better than Fury and prime Povetkin probably beats Joshua.

    But I think below the top 3, the current era is deeper. Also the fighters now are just far more entertaining. Wlad, Byrd, Ibragimov were not exactly entertaining fighters in my opinion. This era has a bunch of characters and guys who are fun to watch.

    In the end it's depends on your criteria. Is it all about how good the very top guys are or how deep the era is overall. I will say I much prefer the current era as a fan, the Klitschko's were too good for their own good and that along with very few exciting fighters made the K2 era pretty boring.
     
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  15. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Post-K2 era

    Usyk is the single best HW boxer of both eras. And maybe an unpopular opinion, but Tyson Fury is top 3 of both eras, behind Usyk, and ahead of one or both of the K2 brothers.

    I’ll admit possible bias, as watching from the UK there was far more hype in this era (with Fury and Joshua both being huge here) compared to the German/Eastern Euro-centric K2 era.

    But the consensus at the time was that the K2 era was a wasteland and the worst era of HW boxing. It’s mainly revisionism and/or nostalgia making people look back more fondly over it.
     
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