Which Heavyweights could Kovalev/Beterbiev beat?

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    HW Division is so attrocious i reckon they would stop or school the vast majority of them


    What say you ESB
     
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Arreola.
     
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  3. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Wilder
     
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  4. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Agree with both choices so far

    I reckon they beat them all

    Wlad maybe is the exception, but that depends on the ref

    Wlads so used to beating on zero skilled overweight bums

    These two are nothing of that sort

    Kovalev has an awesome brutal defence against clinchers - the step back then the brutal punishment

    As for trying to fight Beterbiev inside forget it

    Both guys are damn big 175ers, fightng at their natural weight of say around 200

    I can see an arguemtn for Wlad beating them, but i reckon both would KO the glass jawed giant
     
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  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Foster couldn't beat Ali then it should be none. No lhw should ever be able to beat a top 10 hvw. But if there was any top 10 heavy who was vulnerable...that would be Povetkin. He almost let a CW beat him.
     
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  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Roy did beat Ruiz who was a top 5 HW at the time. no Ali but times have changed.
     
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  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    All depends on how well their power carries... Punch resistance might play a role as well. Either way I don't think either could would be a bum if they were to move up to CW or HW. They'd be in the mix for sure. Elite? Probably not, but in the mix for sure.
     
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  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes they have.
     
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  9. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    i don't think they would beat wilder,,,

    not saying Wilder is unbeatable, they would both be at a serious height and reach disadvantage.
     
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  10. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    no current HW is remotely close to Ali

    the vast majority of them are absolute bums

    LHW has two monsters in it who happen to be large for their weight

    the vast majority of HW dumplings would be brutally beaten by these two

    could see even Wladimir losing - Kovalev is far more skilled while being a hellish puncher, Beterbiev would destroy him if he tried his constant grabbing
     
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  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Ruiz was a manufactured fraud who needed gifts, and to cheat excessively in order to win and remain relevant in the division. Before he hooked up with King he gets getting bombed out in 1 by Tua, and going life and death with the likes of Jimmy Thunder. Besides, it's no coincidence that Toney another MW who moved all the way up the HW was able to replicate Jones' feat without much issue.
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't think Kovalev or Beterbiev do well at HW, they're too small, however if I had to pick who I think they could do well against I'd say.

    Scott
    Chagaev
    Tarver
    Hammer
    Charr
    Adamek

    Maybe
    Szpilka
    Glazkov
    Ruiz Jr.
     
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  13. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    i disagree.
     
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  14. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :yep yeah... Wilder and all the Burger Buffet Goblin
    Opponents he's faced...

    and Tyson Fury!! :dead

    :lol:
     
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  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would give them a puncher chance vs Wlad, since he will always be vunerable vs fast punchers. However, they will be clear under dogs because any smaller guy is giving a lot vs Wlad & Wlad uses his size advantage best
     
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