Which Heavyweights fall from Rocky's right?

Marciano had to work hard in all his major fights.
He was what he was,a grinder.

 

You love spinning that yarn and is was debunked for you enough times.

 

Rocky didn't look like he was hurting LaStarza for the first 5-6 rounds but when he got going ,shots to his hips and sides were moving him of his feet. Shots powerful to move poor Ronald off his feet applied to ones jaw is enough to put any man to sleep.

 

Which is why the Old Foreman "late power" comparision is perplexing. It is what it is, Marciano's late KO of Walcott is going to be looked at as a greater feat of stamina then Foreman's KO of Moorer, because it simply is.

 

I don't accept that today's elite behemoths are NO stronger than Carnera, or Willard, but that is by the by. One thing is sure they are a lot more mobile, skillful, and better conditioned than either of those 2. And its that conditioning that would allow them to take Marciano's shots before swatting him like a fly.

It is futile to suggest that there would be even a 10th round if he fought in todays era at his size.

 

I answer Mendoza's comment that Dempsey and Foreman were front runners,I give two examples in which they scored late kos, and you come galloping to defend Marciano's power?
Mr Wright , you need to chill out .

 

I don't need to chill out you are the one getting testy for some reason.

Foreman was certainly THE front runner, outside of the second Peralta fight it's very difficult to argue otherwise. Of course during his comeback he became a more conservative fighter to mask his limitations.

 

I'm not the one adding postscripts like," that should be apparent ",which is blatant condescension.I always react testily to that.

 

Great answer Burt:good

 

There were always Big guys around, and a few even made it to the top Willard,Primo,Buddy Baer, its just that there was a well conditioned perfect heavyweight Named Louis & Dempsey around those days...even today there have only been a handful of big men that have been successful Lewis & the Klitschko's and throw in Bowe but I am not sure they would get past the Brown Bomber in fact I would be betting on Joe...I am a fan of the K bros and Lennox but Joe Louis was just too good and hit a lot harder & faster of combo than Rahman,Byrd,McCall,Purity,Brewster and was a great fighter not an average one

as far as the smaller men like Burt said there were exceptions to the rule as rare as they may be, Marciano and Langford & Fitz were even small in there day but they punched as hard as anyone and a clean shot by these men would and could take anyone out

 

Good points well made Bummy, but you haven't mentioned the fact that Joe needed to get close to execute his combinations, and I don't see him " shuffling " past the jabs of Lewis, or the K brothers. I'd pick all 3 of them to stop Joe around the 8th round.

 

So, the contention is that Marciano was a once in a century talent that the sport has not seen since. I just wanted to make that clear.

Yes, Marciano "could" KO anyone. I have no problem with that. Would he likely get certain opponents in position to KO them before they had done sufficient damage to mitigate his offense? Therein lies the rub.

 

Marciano couldn't kayo Tex Cobb, that's for sure.Or Tim Witherspoon.

 

Fox come down to earth. To say that Carnera wasn't as conditioned as today's 12 round behemoths is ludicrous....Carnera was born strong with the body of Apollo, muscles upon muscles, who though not a great fighter
could and DID go 15 rounds without any trouble...Jess Willard was able to go TWENTY SIX rounds under a blazing afternoon sun in Havana and
flatten Jack Johnson with one right cross. These men came from harder
times than today's prima donna's for dang sure...

 

Can't argue w that.