Which heavyweights from the past would stand a chance against Anthony Joshua?

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  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You could say that but without breaking down how and countering why i would say its highly unlikely are two different classification of opinions. ali would be highly unlikely doing that.

    If you doubt that go to the Ali vs Joshua thread that know one ever has probably broke that match down like i have or could..agreeing or not. ..lol


    Each to his own but as you know i like realistic circumstances using actual fights/statistics and everything in between.

    i dont exxpect most to think joshua wins just like i dont expect everyone to think tyson does either..two highly nightmarish fighters for Ali.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Im about AJ's age so ill still be here to keep us updated.
     
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  3. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Speed, reflexes, mobility.

    AJ is a giant. But he’s not a giant for Ali. He’s just a big guy like him, with a couple extra inches on him. You think that will negate the magical raw athletic traits from the goat? Or the heart? Or the IQ? How?

    AJ gets seriously winded sometimes in round FIVE. You simply cannot slip like that against a prime Ali. Frazier had to fight just as hard in round 15 as he did in round 1 to get that win.

    After the Breazeale fight Joshua said he tried to move like Ali to pay tribute to him, and couldn’t even emulate the footwork during a live firefight. There will be a very serious Speed, stamina, and IQ disparity here.

    Ali has experienced power disparities before with guys like Liston and Foreman. And proved he can beat the most explosive of sluggers. Joshua might bring certain things that they couldn’t, but he also lacks some of the things they had as well.

    Things would crystallize for fans immediately after the first exchange, when Ali out-reflexes Joshua to land stinging punches with that stern confident look.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Look, Joshua is a very exciting fighter, and I have followed him throughout his professional career, but we need a reality check here.

    He is clearly the best heavyweight in the world right now, but he only has one truly elite win i.e. Wladamir Klitschko.

    Don't be in a hurry, reserve your judgment for a few years.
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I have to admit, there were some good points for AJ that got me to thinking
     
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  6. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Of your last 35 posts that are publicly visible, 5 or so have been boxing related. The other 30 are mostly insults towards other members.

    Basically, every time we see that you have posted something, there is less than a 1/4th chance that it will actually pertain to boxing and the topic of the thread.

    There is over a 50% (meaning more likely than not) that you will insult someone with no relavence to the topic.

    So not only are you really the troll, but you’re telling us that you’re also too dumb to realize it?
     
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  7. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Well done with that vital statistic, i feel honoured that you took the time and made the effort.
     
  8. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey cuthbert i got news for ya pal! No shittttt the following could not only put up a good fight but would kayo his vulnerable chin.oh and he really isnt that fast or skilled...hes good ,marketable and skilled but AJ himself knows he went life and death with a 41 year old over the hill klitchko:

    Foreman mk1 and 2
    $mokin joe
    Ali
    Louis
    Jack johnson
    Jack dempsey
    Marciano
    Witherspoon
    Liston
    Ruddock (1989-91)
    Bonecrusher (1984-87)
    Larry holmes
    Jimmy young
    Ken norton
    Gerry cooney 1980-1981
    Michael dokes 1983
    Vitali
    Wlad 2008-2012
    Pinklon thomas 1983-84
    Ray mercer 1991
    Riddick bowe
    Holyfield
    Lennox lewis
    Andrew golota 1996
    Mike tyson
    Tyson fury
    Gary mason
    Frank bruno
    Damiani
    Ron lyle
     
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  9. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Against the old Wladimir Joshua wasn't impressive at all (his chin, stamina and one punch ko power
    look questionable.)
     
  10. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Its not just about points but common sense thinking.

    Put a bunch of random ppl in an experiment and try convince them over time that the sky is green and enough will eventually agree with proper and professional coerced agenda. this is the boxing community...lol
     
  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Ali would take him into deep water and drown him. He may look fast for size but a prime Ali would make him fall over from fatigue from missing all his big shots. Ali would pepper him.

    Mike Tyson would slip inside and explode on Joshua`s chin. He may get up but how many times?

    Joe Louis
    Lennox Lewis
    Riddick Bowe {maybe}
    Larry Holmes
    Joe Frazier
    Vitali Klit
     
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  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why? He would run rings around him and pick him off at will.
     
  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I want your opinion I'll slap it out of you.
     
  14. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wass1985 move along back to the boxrec forums brainless hated troll.i doubt you could slap anything
     
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  15. channy

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    Come on now, it is a little too early to be comparing AJ to some of the most proven fighters that have graced the sport, sure he is good but suggesting he would wipe the floor or beat most or all from the past is completely crazy.

    Fighters in this era don't have the same opposition like in the 70s 80s 90s etc, or the same hunger.

    He has been caught by a light fisted Whyte who couldn't knock a wnak out, and almost KOd by Wlad who had seen better days, so come on please, this man is not the second coming of anybody.

    I could see Bruno starching him, i could see Holyfield dragging him into the trenches and breaking him apart, foreman would club him back to his dressing room, tyson would make him change his entrance from stormzy to Kylie, Lewis would give him no respect and KO him, even rahman would stand him on his head, Shavers aginst him would send shivers, Joe louis would be too brutal for him, Liston would unload his piston on him, Dempsey would leave him feeling empty, Frazier would left hook his chin all night, jesus many more could and would beat him, i would even give good old Aussie joe a shot at beating him, even Herbie Hide i think would knock his aass out.

    Far to early to be judging and comparing him with the greats of the game, lets see how he does in time and the pass judgement.
     
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