Which HW ranks higher?

Lol 100 percent. It’s really just opinion discussing like the 3-15 spot. Until better arguments for slots can be made

 

Which Johnson, the 'Philadelphia Giant'?

Then: 1. Marciano, 2. Johnson, 3. Foreman, 4. Dempsey, 5. Liston, 6. Frazier

 

My answer is no.

 

I agree with what you say. On that note, Foreman was a great heavyweight and Liston a very good one but neither were great champions. Liston had just one defense before losing the title, albeit, a one round KO of a former champ. Foreman had just three successful defenses during his two reigns. These facts do not really address the thread title but if their time as champions plays into how they are rated then this has to knock both of them down a bit.

 

That's my order as well, I can entertain Johnson over Liston too.

 

I agree, that's a good point... as long as you have Schmeling in your top 16

 

That's it and you could add Holyfield to that list as well. Jeffries was a far more dominant champion and had a better reign, especially ending of it. It is even more impressive than of Dempsey and Frazier in my view.

Vitaly Klitschko had more defences than Liston, Frazier and Holyfield collected.