Which If Best Top Ten List

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  1. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which of the following top ten heavyweight lists to you consider the best and most accurate? Why?

    List A
    1. Rocky Marciano
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Joe Louis
    4. Joe Frazier
    5. George Foreman
    6. Jack Dempsey
    7. Larry Holmes
    8. Jack Johnson
    9. Mike Tyson
    10. Sonny Liston

    List B
    1. Joe Louis
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Jack Dempsey
    4. Jack Johnson
    5. Gene Tunney
    6. Rocky Marciano
    7. Ezzard Charles
    8. George Foreman
    9. Joe Frazier
    10. Larry Holmes

    List C
    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Floyd Patterson
    4. Ezzard Charles
    5. Rocky Marciano
    6. Jack Johnson
    7. Sonny Liston
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Jimmy Bivins
    10. Sam Langford

    List D
    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Rocky Marciano
    4. Jack Dempsey
    5. Jack Johnson
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Sonny Liston
    8. Joe Frazier
    9. Sam Langford
    10. Jersey Joe Walcott

    List E
    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. George Foreman
    5. Larry Holmes
    6. Rocky Marciano
    7. Sonny Liston
    8. Joe Frazier
    9. Jack Johnson
    10. Jack Dempsey

    Which is the best list? The worst? Could you rate them from best to worst?
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Not one of them has Lennox Lewis, so i rate all pretty lowly tbh.
     
  3. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I should have mentioned that several of these are from around 2000--not all though. So let's just say, Lewis aside, what do you think of them?
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    Ok, let me have a Captain Cook then mate.
     
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    List C with Patterson at 3 and Bivins top 10 is crap.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    List A is reasonable but B with Tunney at 5 is shyte.
     
  7. Bokaj

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    I would probably say D.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    D and E at least have some decent usual suspects.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    So i am down to A, D and E.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Holyfield at 3 in E kills it, considering Tyson is not there. If Tyson isn't there what has Holyfield done to nab 3 position?

    Ok, A and D.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    I like Ali at 1 so i'll go for D, but there's nuttin' between em.
     
  12. OLD FOGEY

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    Thanks John--I hope a few others will play.
     
  13. Sizzle

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    I'm already on record saying A is pretty good.

    List B is interesting, I agree with 3/5 of the top5, but Tunney and Charles are just too high. I really don't feel these rankings are justifiable.

    List C is bonkers. I'm not one to dismiss an opinion rather than trying to understand what's behind it (particularly from historians) but I don't think anyone on this site would be happy with this list.

    D's okay up to 9 and 10. I don't think Jersey Joe and Langford rate that highly.

    E is interesting, Holyfield is too high though. Must favour head-to-head higher than accomplishments.

    They're all acceptable in my opinion, with the exception of C which needs some explanation. Tyson is absent from too many though, he was the Jack Dempsey of the 80's who actually defended his title.

    All in all I don't know which one I like best - I'm inclined to say A, but I don't think Marciano should be No.1, and every other list has Louis/Ali top.
     
  14. Bokaj

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    Yeah, they are very close. I probably chose D because of Ali at nr. 1, but A is no less reasonable, really.
     
  15. Bokaj

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    Good point. Don't like the guy, but how can you really justify having Dempsey a lot higher than him? For me Tyson is definitely higher than Dempsey.