Which in your opinion was the more blatant duck

No you're right... Marquez was better.

 

Leonard ducking Pryor makes about as much sense as Hagler ducking McCallum.

On the other hand, it makes a lot more sense than Leonard ducking Hagler... Just waiting for one of the resident nuts here to bring that one out of the woodwork.

 

Most blatant duck was of course Dempsey-Wills. Zale's reign wasn't that pretty either after WWII. Frazier going two years after FOTV facing two unranked fighters... Holmes-Page... Armstrong-Burley, Cocoa Kid etc. Ali declining to face his mandatory in Foreman (although he had soundly beaten him before, though, of course).

 

Duran did not want to fight Buchanan again.

 

Yeah, kicking the living **** out of him the first must have really scared him :-(

 

Ive never seen any legitimate concrete proof that Foreman actually pursued that match. He talked about it in the papers but where were the offers, purses, and promoters who attempted it? Foreman didn't want that fight. Ali owned him and was in his head at that point. After Ali beat him so easily Foreman was a basket case.

 

Johnson ducking Langford for several years rates.

 

Most cases everybody has a price. They're professionals so in theory, in most cases boxers will take any fight because that's their job. If nothing else is available a boxer will take that fight he does not want. It's his job.

Boxers can talk themselves into wanting any fight. ...If the price is right.

So really ducking is more to do with management rather than the fighter. And why would the management of any fighter want their kid taking high risk fights if a lower risk fight is available? Lowest risk fior the highest price is the name of the game for any manager.

How many times have we heard ex fighters say, "I didn't even want that fight but my... etc etc" about a loss?

You never hear a fighter say "I didn't want that fight, I didn't think I could win, but I surprised myself!"

 

Pretty much spot on. Leonard was a little busy fighting Benitez, Duran, Duran, Kalule and Hearns in late 79 through 81. I think he may have found an easier route if he was just ducking Pryor.

 

Like Tyson did to Lennox. Might need a bit more than that.

 

Foreman ducking tyson . wow you must have ***** And courage to say that

 

I had always been under the impression that Marquez wouldn't have had much time to prepare for Naz as it was an offer on short notice. If it wasn't, then that was another curious choice by Marquez and his team.

Marquez also rejected a Pacquiao rematch in 2004/05 after their first fight, and then ended up losing to Chris John not too long after and made something like $30,000.

Fortunately for Marquez, and the fans too, he ended up getting bigger fights later on. But it sure took awhile for someone of his terrific caliber to be in big fights.

 

The great Welterweight mix of the 1980 era caused some assumed ducks. Leonard told Champion Pipino Cuevas on CBS post-fight he wanted next a WW unification fight with him. But in reality, Cuevas fought Hearns (8/80), while SRL took what he thought would be the easier fight in the smaller Roberto Duran (6/80).

 

They weren't ducks.

 

The biggest duck is HBO ducking facts and Pryor's own words in order to create a better dramatic narrative for their documentary, and tricking a bunch of gullible and ignorant fans into believing their bull****.

One reporter mistakenly believed that one Nicaraguan judge gave Arguello every round, and they kept that in the episode. They didn't do the most basic fact-checking which shows that this isn't true.