WHICH IS BIGGER: Tyson Fury vs Oleskandr Usyk OR Canelo Alvarez vs Terence Crawford

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WHICH IS BIGGER: Tyson Fury vs Oleskandr Usyk OR Canelo Alvarez vs Terence Crawford

  1. Tyson Fury vs Oleskandr Usyk

  2. Canelo Alvarez vs Terence Crawford

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  1. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    But would Fury vs Usyk do more PPV buys globally? In North America Canelo vs Crawford would do double the buys.
     
    DramaShow, Sep 8, 2023
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  2. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why is it different for heavyweight matchups like Usyk vs Fury?
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    For sure

    The two largest, most colourul and charismatic fighters in the entire sport not just the HW division

    Clenelo and Crawford might be the two most colourless, bland and least charismatic

    The undisputed HW championship on the line ie. for all the marbles. HW vs HW

    Clenelo vs Crawford is a welter vs a super-middle

    Both have sold out arenas and stadiums on different continents and Usyk many times in many different countries

    Clenelo has never fought outside North America and Crawford has only done so once

    Belly is signed to Top Rank and Usyk has fought in the US x 3. Look at how Loma sold more tickets in Haney's hometown than Haney did. People say Crawford's stock has risen since beating Spence. Well, Usyk's has skyrockted since he last fought in the US and if OG Bob affords the undisputed match up the respect and hype it deserves it will do well in the US too

    And obviously it would be massive in the spiritual and ancestral and rightful home of boxing the UK and do very well globally too
     
    Serge, Sep 8, 2023
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  4. P4PMayweather

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    thats a lie, eminem( arguably the greatest rapper ever) introduced bud crawford to the ring.

    Then after the fight pretty much all of the videos of terrence crawford being interviewed even days after the fight were trending on youtube for several days
     
    P4PMayweather, Sep 9, 2023
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  5. P4PMayweather

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    bruh crawford is a superstar, he was being invited on pretty much every social network after the spence fight and those videos did big numbers viewership wise, eminem walked this guy out to the ring. Crawford is bigger than Usyk
     
    P4PMayweather, Sep 9, 2023
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  6. Goran_

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    Wtf is a greatest rapper? There's no such thing :lol:.. & the music industry is absolute shite & full of satanist n0nces.. eminem was probably why it 'trended' not Crawford.. Fury Usyk is bigger .. Crawford has the personality of a door knob
     
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  7. P4PMayweather

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    uysk wasn’t even big in his home country up until the war. Could not sell out arenas. Went to other fighters backyard like loma because his following was niche at best
     
    P4PMayweather, Sep 9, 2023
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  8. Serge

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    Usyk's pro debut in Ukraine

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    All before he even won a world title. He sells well at home and would sell way way more now for obvious reasons, sells well in GB, Poland, Russia, Germany, Latvia, Saudi, and the US
     
    Serge, Sep 9, 2023
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  9. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Usyk schools the whole boxing world of today.

    Technique: 10
    IQ ring: 10

    Impossible to lock him up in an angle or hit him heavy. Hes The Cat. He sneaks out and dodges blows as none.
     
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  10. Bokaj

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    Probably only Fury fans voting for Canelo-Crawford here.

    The only fight that's even close to Usyk-Fury would be Bivol-Beterbiev, but it's still Usyk-Fury. However much Fury's "unblemished" record seems to have been carefully manufactured he's the one for Usyk to beat to prove his superiorty in the division.
     
    Bokaj, Sep 10, 2023
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  11. shadow111

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    Impossible to hit him heavy? Does that include being dropped with a belt-line uppercut?

    Usyk is soft to the body and needed favorable refereeing to rescue him from being KTFO.
     
    shadow111, Sep 10, 2023
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  12. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    I meaned on the face. As to the body he proved to be able to hold heavy blows from Dubois (and Joshua too) excluded that clearly under the navel.

    However if the ref had counted him he would have got up for sure.
     
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  13. shadow111

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    OK.
    It wasn't clearly under the navel at all. You're imagining where you think his navel would be based on where his trunks are.

    Usyk's navel is quite low compared to other fighters, it's lower on his body than Dubois :

    https://www.nowboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/Oleksandr-Usyk-vs-Daniel-Dubois-fight-weigh-in.jpg

    But whether you deem it legal or not, it shows that he clearly has issues with body shots. You are so sure he woulda gotten up, just like you're sure where you think the navel is. And even if he gets up, he wouldn't be outta the woods yet, he would still be hurting and in danger of being dropped again or stopped.
     
    shadow111, Sep 10, 2023
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  14. bjl12

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    Canelo Crawford since Belly will be stripped cause he wants to fight the Karate Kid next
     
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  15. Boxing2019

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    However it was not totally over the navel from any angle you can see it therefore it was illegal. Its enough only a part of the glove is under the navel to be declared an illegal blow.
     
    Boxing2019, Sep 10, 2023
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