Which is the better overall combination, Boxing/Jiu Jitsu/Judo or Kickbox/Wrestling,

Boxing/bjj and judo - boxing for me is the best striking art it's faster and more refined than any other striking art and boxers have better understanding of timing and distance IMO, bjj gives you the oppotunaty to fight from your back with sweeps an subs and judo gives you trips an TD's!

 

No problem, I rembering your thread about bjj gyms in Manchester did you ever go to stealth bjj?

 

I always thought an extensive background of wrestling and boxing would be lethal for a heavyweight.

Overall for the UFC today I'd say kickboxing and wrestling. Cagefighting is a bit different than a ring as well and that favors maulers.

 

Boxing + Catch wrestling.

 

is there any realistic way to do kickboxing, judo, bjj, and wrestling all at the same time and still master all of them?

Or just forget the gi altogether and focus on no-gi grappling instead of judo/bjj?

is this feasible:
- Mon,Wed - bjj, judo
- Tue, Thu - boxing, kickboxing
- Fri - wrestling
- Sat - no-gi grappling
- plus Strength&Conditioning 3 times a week.
Would this work?

 

For standup Boxing/Muay Thai. Grappling would be BJJ/Judo. A combination of any of these four and your pretty much set.

 

I take it you box? Have you ever tried to step in with a kick boxer? I used to do this all the time; I'd spar a guy and waste him boxing for a round, then we'd go a round on kickboxing and he'd totally waste me. The "timing and distance" is totally different if kicks are involved, as is the stance, balance, movement etc. We've even seen this in MMA fights. I have no doubt that Din Thomas would kill Kenny Florian in a boxing match, but if you watch their fight you'll see Kenny keep him just a little to far away and win the striking game with kicks. Same with the recent Lauzon/Pettis fight. Of course sometimes it doesn't come out that way (Diaz/Cerrone) but the vast majority of the time a good kickboxer beats a good boxer IMO.

 

Iv trained a little of both boxing and thai the only think that really ****ed me up was the clinch! Beating a kickboxer is about footwork for the boxer in an out fast an give angles not that I did either at a good level just sparring but for me a boxer with understanding of kicks beats a kick boxer!

 

Well, you're either a better boxer than I am or the kickboxers you were sparring were worse than the ones I sparred.

Still, based on evidence I've seen in MMA, especially recently, kickboxers have the upper hand.

 

If you include Catch under wrestling then there is a potential for either combination. Depends on how the fighter adapts the styles to MMA.

Boxing brings great punching and timing to the fight. It has issues with some of the distance, but the superior punches are highly useful.

BJJ allows you to control a fight from the bottom and end it quickly from the top. Not a whole lot of explanation needed there.

Judo properly adapted to MMA is scary. Awkward grips and throws combined with a fair knowledge of more traditional MMA takedowns can allow you to dominate fighters that haven't prepared against some decent Judokas. Also Judokas tend to be able to go right into the submission with power due to the rules in Judo.

Dutch Kickboxing or Muay Thai bring the distance and dynamic standup that can throw a boxer off. It brings angles and an eye for openings that boxers often aren't used to. The clinch game can allow for them to bridge the gap in that no mans land with a boxer as well.

Wrestling allows you to dictate where the fight takes place and allows you great control on the top. Alone it leaves you vulnerable to submissions.

Catch wrestling combines wrestling with quick awkward submissions. It is designed to attack absolutely any opening even if you lose your position to go after it.

So again. style combinations aren't as important as how you adapt the styles you have to MMA.

 

bjj, wrestling, muay thai in that order.

 

It depends on the fighters natural strength. I have told fighters with a boxing background to not even focus on kicks until you know how to use them. Those with a karate background or kickboxing background to use your footwork and kicks to set up your punches. I donot think that the front leg is used enough in MMA, too many back leg power kicks. A few do Anderson sylva does it well. Wrestling is more aggressive than Judo or Jujitsu so I do not prefer it. but it can be effective