Which is the more reasonable score for Floyd vs Canelo

Canelo barely won a round. If you're generous you might find 2, if you're a rabid fan you can scrape 3, and if you're his mother she might say 4. 5 if you've got a gun to your head, and 6 if you're a) getting paid big bucks or b) you're legally blind.

7 is tantamount to creating a black hole that warps time and space.

 

Don't know. I'd stopped watching Floyd fights by then.

 

There's a difference between rounds not being dominantly won, and rounds that could go either way. Floyd won 10 rounds clear and arguably all 12. A few rounds here and there by live judges depends on where they were sitting. We have TV's, we can all see Canelo didn't win more than 4 at an absolute stretch.

 

Canelo hardly won a round. 6-6 is laughable.

 

It sounds like you were watching a completely different fight than me. Floyd didn't win more than a handful of rounds clearly. There were plenty of rounds that you could give to Floyd because Canelo wasn't landing much either, but rounds where both guys are hitting gloves and missing are not clear rounds. When there are close even rounds, what tends to happen is that the more popular, more established, hometown fighter tend to get the nod.

 

we have a majority decision.

 

Name them. Name the rounds.

 

no he did NOT!!!
fmj clearly won but every round was tough for fmj mentally, that was he 2nd toughest fight because it was a mental battle with an elite operator. imho canelo was the most talented and most dangerous opponent fmj squared off with.

what made it look like a wide score was because that was the single greatest fmj we'd ever seen. that was 150 lb version of the fmj who destroyed chico and gatti.. he was just about unstoppable that night.

many very very close and competitive rounds where any close round was going to the younger up and coming massive star already in canelo.

8/4 ish was accurate but fmj was being treated like shyt...doesn't matter, even some try claiming that's just an ok win.. that was a GREAT GREAT ****ing win !!!

 

Will have to go back and score the rounds. I haven't actually gone back and re-watched it in its entirety because I haven't found anybody on here willing to do the same so we can examine each round and discuss it on a round by round basis.

 

The problem with using punch stats is that they are highly inaccurate. How do we know that the guy counting punches isn't working for TMT? Based on the punch stats, if I recall Floyd outlanded Canelo in every round except for the 4th round which was even. That of course doesn't prove anything since deciding what is a landed punch and what isn’t is very difficult in real time. We need to go back and score each round.

As a comparison, to show you how debatable punch stats are, Floyd nearly doubled Manny Pacquiao’s landed punches via punch stat, and Floyd landed at nearly double the connect %, but yet I’ve seen videos from Pacquiao fans on youtube that show Pacquiao landing more punches than Floyd round after round.

The only confirmation bias on display here is the confirmation of those that object to the official cards in many of Canelo’s fight, namely the CJ Ross’s 114-114 vs Floyd but to be clear it’s not just this fight that many Triple G fans object to. They not only think that Floyd beat Canelo easily, but they also think Lara beat Canelo, that Trout beat Canelo, that Khan should have been up 4-1 instead of 3-2 etc etc. I mean basically they take exception with pretty much every Canelo scorecard.

So lets not act like it’s JUST the 114-114 vs Floyd that many Triple G fans use as their confirmation bias to believe that Triple G won’t get a fair shake if the fight vs Canelo goes the distance. It’s basically every big win Canelo has, every judges decision that Canelo is involved in is somehow suspect because it gives Canelo too much credit lol. To them, Canelo lost to Lara, Trout, was losing to Khan, etc etc etc.

Essentially, they are personally objecting to many of Canelo’s wins and the closeness of his fight with Floyd to argue that’s proof that Triple G is going to get robbed if it goes the distance, and therefore concludes that Triple G needs a knockout to win lol. This is what we’re dealing with here.

I don’t see how I’m trapped in any confirmation bias as I’m not the one objecting to any these decisions. You and many Triple G fans have to create a confirmation bias by finding like minded individuals that agree to object to these decisions.

 

Great points. Thank you for chiming in. Yes Floyd was on his game, he knew he was in for his toughest mental battle vs Canelo, but he was out of sorts early on in the first several rounds. He was biting to Canelo's feints and really on his heels. He was doing well to stick to the jab and double up that jab when Canelo would land. I'm at a loss for why so many have a difficult time accepting that most of the rounds were very very close and competitive. I challenge anybody to re-score the fight with me and see what we come up with. And if we disagree on a round, argue it and cite moments during the round.

 

This is one of those really easy threads and polls to answer.

I can tell you that the answer is the top option. Why do you ask???????

 

how can you even consider the draw being reasonable.

 

119-109 Mayweather if you're being generous.