Which Klitschko had the higher Ring IQ?

But which of those ranks higher? offence or defence? :think

 

Wladimir, and its not even close...

 

He did not have better reflexes. Liar. Troll.

 

Well, Steward said Wladimir was far the smartest boxer he ever worked with.

 

Was he talking about ring smarts or just general intelligence/education? Wlad does have a PHD so he's definitely smart doesn't mean he's got great ring IQ. Look at Mayweather, genius in the ring, outside it he's illiterate and makes foolish decisions.

And even if he Steward was talking about ring smarts, he never trained Vitali, so you can't compare the two based on Steward's experience alone.

 

Excellent post, Vitali definitely had better reflexes. People think good speed equates to good reflexes, they are not the same thing. Even from a physiological stand point they are different systems, reflexes being how quick your brain can process the information in front of you and respond while speed is all about fast twitch muscle fibers making your body move quicker.

 

He said that he and Wlad used to study opponents togetherfor hours and that Wlad basicly saw as much as him in the tapes, and he also said that together they made up the gameplans.

 

False, They had the same reflexes. But low Guard equals faster upper body movement. He also had height over Wladimir - and Especially height over his competition which made his low Guard reflex based defence even more effective.

However when he actually did fought tall and fast comp, that defence of his didn't look as impressive anymore. Im talking about Sanders and Lewis. Here is a good study of Wlads ringsmarts: [url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g4zjUxJzrz4[/url]

 

Easy question: Vladimir is the much smarter fighter. Just look at their resumes and tell me who beat a lot of slick defensive opponents and who beat only slow mindless plodders:

Vladimir:

[url]http://boxrec.com/boxer/7035[/url]


Vitali:

[url]http://boxrec.com/boxer/7033[/url]


Vladimir beat fast and crafty operators Chris Byrd, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, David Haye, Alexander Povetkin, Bryant Jennings and Tony Thompson.

Vitali has never beaten a good, smart defensive fighter. His best wins are over slow, one-dimensional plodders Derek Chisora, Sam Peter and Chris Arreola.

I know lots of Vitali's fanboys don't like facts, but Vitali lost to Chris Byrd, then refused to give Byrd a rematch. (This rare instance in which the winner begged the loser for a rematch was due to Byrd being ducked by most top heavies, including Lennox.) After that loss, Vitali's managers kept him away from slick fighters; Vladimir was given all those guys.

These are facts. You can talk all you want, but I'll just keep repeating that Vitali ducked the Byrd rematch and then ducked all the other top contenders that Vladimir fought.

 

Yes because Fury is so exciting landing his 7 punches a round :rofl

 

Surely you mean the other way around. Vitali had better defensive IQ (shown by the fact that he never got caught flush and knocked out) and Vladimir had better offensive IQ (shown by the fact that he was able to land on fast-moving targets like Byrd and Chambers).

 

Vitali easily.

 

That's the ironic thing with guys like Fury and Haye. They talk about "ridding the world of the boring Klitschkos" but in reality both Haye and Fury THEMSELVES were part of the some of the most boring fights in history.

 

Wladimirs ring IQ is overrated. He's a manufactured boxer. A fighter with a high ring IQ would have adapted against Fury.

Vitali is far more comfortable in the ring, one can see that certain aspects of boxing such as pacing, clinching, distance, angles etc. were clear to him from the beginning. He is a true natural.

 

Wlad for sure. And you just have to look at their best opponents. Wlad fought and beat more diversified opposition.

Vitali, just plodders.