Which knockout was more embarrassing?

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  1. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even Rahman will tell you it wasnt due to a "single" punch, he had Lewis hurt 30 seconds earlier in the round from an equally big right hand, stunned him with 3 or 4 jabs and whilst Lewis was in an unbalanced position bouncing off the ropes with his feet not underneath him Rahman punched the start of his punch through the target, rather than catching him on the end of a punch, and connecting on Lewis `s jaw as he bounced forward into it.
    When you see the camera shot from above you see the angle of Lewis`s body and the horrific snap of his kneck backwards as his body bounces into the punch and the punch knocks his head back from the bodies direction on momentum, that type of horizontal auixillary accelaration blow is deemed the most serious type of concusion becaus eof the stroke like effect it has on the blood vessels at the back of the kneck into the brain from the way the head is turned by the shot.
    Wlad was never caught like that, its just a case of the laws of medicine and physics.
     
  2. dwilson

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    Lewis ko was far more embarressing. Lewis had all the tools to really dominate and would have held well in the division in any era while Wlad is nothing more than a big bloke who'sthe best of a bad bunch.
     
  3. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What id say is embarrasing is the way Wlad never sought revenge from his loss, he resorted to fighting the fabio molli`s of the world who took a dive from the first jab in an obvious fix. In fact Wlad once again sought revenge by setting his big brother on Sanders as he did with Purrity.
    I dont count the rematch with Brewster becaus ehe waited what about 3 years later until the guy had been beaten, suffered a detatched retina and been out of action with the injury for a year and clearly mentally was not in fighting condition and most likely wasnt physically fit, especisally when you heard his trainer saying after the first round that he wouldnt let him get hit tonight, he hadnt been hit at that point and you dodnt get in ring with Klitschko and expect not to get hit, he turned up for the retirement payday.
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    :think

    Actually... Rahman was lining Lewis up, and hitting him with right hands all night.. you could see that knockout coming a mile away. I actually called my brother (huge Lewis fan) right before that round, and said "are you ready to see your boy knocked out?"... and he said that he had an awful feeling too. Then.. BAM... but that knockout came after Rahman also clearly hurt him earlier too, and Lennox tried to laugh it off.

    Wlad on the other hand, was prowling around the ring after Corrie, with complete disregard for Corrie's power, and speed. I honestly believe that Wlad had no idea what Sanders' brought to the table. He was doing just fine, as Sanders was just walking with his back against the ropes, looking for a chance to counter. Then, he took his opportunity as Wlad got lazy while backing out, and Sanders sprung off of the ropes and cracked with a HUGE left hand. Wlad was stunned, and didn't know what to do when buzzed, and fell apart. There wasn't any outboxing going on... they were feeling each other out, and BAM... then it was a matter of Wlad being hurt, and Sanders just blasting away for the rest of the fight.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    i don't know, they were both bad.

    at least wlad didn't try to smile at corrie before getting dropped, like lewis did.
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Uh.... Lennox Lewis waited until 3 years after McCall beat him too. Also, McCall had been beaten, and just got fresh out of CRACK REHAB!:lol:

    Wlad tried to force an immediate rematch, but Sanders denied it, and when appealed to the WBO, they turned Wlad down, saying that Corrie had to fight his manditory Challenger first (which was Brewster). Wlad had to fight someone in the top 15 rankings of the WBO to get a shot out of the winner of Brewster vs Sanders... so Wlad fought Moli who was the only one available, and was ranked #14 by the WBO. Unfortunately, Sanders sat on his title forever, and then vacated it rather than defending it, and giving Wlad his rematch. Wlad ended up fight Brewster for the Vacant title. Sanders publically admited during a video interview with Max boxing that Wlad was asking him for a rematch, but he was denying Wlad. This is Wlad's fault?

    Brewster also openly denied Wlad a rematch directly after their fight. He said that he would never fight Wlad again unless Wlad became his manditory... which Wlad did become his manditory, and was forced to by the WBO. Of course, after Brewster lost, he tried to go back to his "golden ticket", and got his ass whooped. Brewster used the reasoning of "Wladimir tried to take away from my win by accusing people of foul play, so I won't grant him a rematch". Once again... that was Brewster, not Wlad.
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Yea, Sanders actually looked like he was ready to **** his pants when Wlad got back up the 3rd time. Wlad looked angry, and Sanders looked like he dropped a load...

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    I just always thought that was funny.
     
  8. Punisher33

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    I think Sanders was just tired Widow_Maker, I cant see anyone being scared of a guy he just dropped 3 times, Sanders has always had stamina issues.
     
  9. barneyrub

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    Mccall wouldnt fight Lewis, Don King froze Lewis out, Lewis only got that fight because the WBC ordered it for the vacant title.
     
  10. LiamE

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    This is the whole point why H/W is, was and always will be the most interesting division.

    Any decent H/W can knock out and be knocked out by any other. Fact is Lewis made 2 mistakes and took 2 punches he couldnt handle in his career. Wlad made more mistakes and took more punches he couldnt handle in one fight than Lewis did in his entire career.
     
  11. Shane_Erich

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    I'd say Wlad because Rahman was better than Sanders, at that point Sanders was talking retirement.
     
  12. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Well.... that just goes to show that we can't always blame fighters for not rematching immediately. It isn't as if they can FORCE their opponent to get back into the ring with them. Wlad wanted rematches with both of them, and neither were willing to give it to him, until their careers took a hit... then Brewster wanted to cash in on the Wlad rematch.

    Also, Brewster having had a detached retina means absolutely nothing. His eye has recovered 100%, and it didn't get re-injured during the fight... so what would it matter that he had a previous eye injury? It isn't as if his vision was impaired when he fought Wlad.
     
  13. Shane_Erich

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    It was also funny because Wlad was announced as Vitali when he came to the ring.
     
  14. Punisher33

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    I dont think his eye was really the problem, his mind set was. Buddy trained Brewster not to go to war with Wlad and tried teaching him how to avoid punches better in training camp, as we both seen in the fight it didnt work. Brewster made it clear to Buddy that he wants to be able be around for his kids and realized he cant fight the same way he used fight anymore, his wars against Eitienne, Wlad, Meehan, Liakhovich, and Krasniqi, finally caught up with him.
     
  15. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At least Lewis took his loss with grace, there was no claims of foul play as the klitschko camp did in the Brewster case.

    Lewis post fight interview.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=KKF4Pta4d3w