Which light heavyweight/cruiser weight

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Would give prime Joe Frazier a tough time or even upset the Frazier apple cart?
     
  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of them (unless u consider Marciano a cruiser) but Moore Charles and Sphinx make entertaining fights
     
  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    LHW Ezzard Charles and CW Evander Holyfield have the best chances

    if you're just talking under 200lbs fighters: Louis of the Schmeling fight, Dempsey and Marciano would beat Frazier to a pulp imo
     
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  4. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield is the only one I can think of who probably gives Frazier hell for awhile when he was at cruiser/Lt.Heavy. No fighter under 200lbs "Beats Joe Frazier to a pulp". And that includes Dempsey, Marciano or Louis . I would pick Frazier over all 3, prime vs prime in tough as hell fights.
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    In all my years, I have never seen anyone pick Frazier over Joe Louis, even Frazier himself thought Louis would beat him...

    Interesting opinion
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Charles v Frazier would have been awesome.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Usyk would have a good chance, he`s 6'3 and his trainer stated that he walks around at about 230lbs while not trainer, his skills are superb, it`s just that we`ve never seen him in there with someone like Frazier before and we don`t know if he could take a powerful heavyweight hook like the one that decked Ali, I feel tat punch would have knocked out any cruiser.
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It would have to be a great mover and angle manipulator who also brings some physicality which makes me think Usyk.

    I think Marciano and Dempsey get pulverized.
     
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  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My opinion is much more reasonable than those 3 "beating Frazier to a pulp". Ali said Marciano would beat him, Foreman said he was afraid of Sonny Liston. Of course Frazier may have said that. Most pro fighters are very humble men (Esp the great ones) But that in no way shape or form mean it's true. I believe Louis lack of great foot speed would be a big hindrance in a fight with Frazier , and Louis was dropped by far less dangerous men than prime Frazier was, and not to mention actually being stopped in his prime by a Fighter not close to Frazier's capabilities .
     
  10. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Considering Bonavena almost best a prime Frazier (Oscar wasn’t in Marciano’s league) I doubt Marciano or Dempsey would get “Pulverized”
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Tunney, Holyfield, Usyk and Charles.
     
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  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Frazier's strength was dealing with movers/outboxers, what are you talking about?
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I tend to count Louis in the 200 and up club.
     
  14. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I give Frazier a good chance against Louis. If Louis had trouble against a croucher like Godoy, he would a lot more trouble with Frazier. No one ever came at Louis like Frazier would. It would have been an interesting fight.
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    Louis smokes Frazier