Which List Means Most To You, ATG or all-time P4P?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which List Means Most To You, ATG or all-time P4P?
     
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  2. Sweet Pea

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    They're the exact same thing. You make horrible threads.
     
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    The truth! Speaketh it, mah' brother!
     
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  4. DINAMITA

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    Which plan appeals most to you: log out forever and try to find some success/happiness doing something that you actually have a clue about, or stay here and continue to make a complete clown of yourself?
     
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  5. asero

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    hey, an ATG list takes into account longetivity and historical significance. he almost stretches the entire career of a boxer..

    whereas, an all-time p4p list considers only the primest prime of a boxer. his best two years. it doesnt takes into account longetivity and involves a lot of hypothetical match-ups.

    lewis, for example would really rank low in an p4p list because he is so big and must have KO his opponents in 3 rounds to make the top 20 of the list..also a p4p list favors boxers who are multi-division champ
     
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  6. Russell

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    You keep on talking and talking but making no sense at all.
     
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  7. asero

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    all-time p4p rankings is basically prime vs prime

    these are two different things...
     
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  8. Russell

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  9. DINAMITA

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    Seriously mate, give up. They are the same thing. Prime is the main and most important part of a boxers' career when analysing p4p greatness, yes, but to use that as a means of creating these two different ranking systems is just stupid.
     
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  10. TBooze

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    To simplify matters, I think you mean: Who, if everyone weighed the same, was the best? And who is the greatest? Like you suggest they are two pretty different things.
     
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  11. asero

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    yes...

    they are really different...emille griffrin is a top 30 p4p guy bec he is so good in his prime...but maybe a top 40 ATG bac of some unnecessary losses...
     
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  12. asero

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    jack demsey, he is not a top 25 guy in terms of ATG bec of inactivity...but his p4p status is way up there bec of his fight with willard
     
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  13. DINAMITA

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    I don't have time to go into it now as I have to log off, but this is the biggest fans' error in the history of sport, boxing fans believing that pound-for-pound means imagining everyone was the same size. This is 100% NOT what pound-for-pound means, nor EVER meant.
     
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  14. asero

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    i think its what p4p is all about..more of imagination..and when we talk about all-time p4p we are considering their prime because it would be better to imagine a best lewis fighting a best ali..and by being the best, we mean primest of prime.

    an average prime has an average of 4 years..so to took the primest of prime, so more or less it's 2 years
     
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  15. Russell

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    An average prime huh? Didn't know there was such a thing. :yikes
     
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