Which List Means Most To You, ATG or all-time P4P?

If you do a search of all-time P4P ratings in Google, or look up some magazines with the same kind of ratings, in most cases you will see their records/achievements being discussed as one of the reasons of their inclusion.

 

Lewis - as I said previously, greatest at particular weight, in this context is not the same as P4P (regardless of weight).
Floyd in 2006 - Same with P4P at particular moment - it has a different meaning than in all-time comparison.
But all-time greatest in most cases is understood the same way as all-time P4P best by most people, from whatever ratings I've seen with either variant in the title.

 

Again, this is at this particular moment. Say, Hopkins lost to Taylor, and thus sinked lower than Taylor in P4P ratings at that particular moment (and for a period of time), but you can't say that Taylor climbed up above Hopkins in all-time P4P ratings based on that particular win (or two wins, doesn't matter). So, current (at that time) P4P rating and all-time P4P rating, same moment of time, are different, obviously.
When Robinson lost to LaMotta, Jake climbed above Ray at that particular moment, doesn't mean he became better P4P in all-time sense as well.

 

Who would you put higher on your P4P list, Robinson from his two best years and with no other part of his career taking place, or him losing every second fight outside of these two years? Or the Robinson as he was, top 10 ranked contender or champ from 1941 to 1961?

 

You make about as much sense as your avatar.

 

I once started a similar thread, so I'm going to defend this one.

Let's use a couple of examples in the heavyweight division, namely Lewis, Holyfield & Marciano

Now it would legitimate to rank them in terms of H@H combat as

Lewis
Holyfield and/or
Marciano

But on a p4p List it would legit to rank

Holyfield and/or Marciano
and then Lewis

Holyfield's a great example, because as a heavyweight verses Lewis I would consider him behind him, but if one said who was a better P4P fighter, I would give the nod to Holyfield hands down.

 

pound for pound is bull**** they should scrap the whole thing it is totally biased against heavyweights for example. The whole thing is one of the biggest fallicies in the sport

 

IF pac-man hadn't gotten his @ss whipped in the 1st fight, there wouldn't have been a need for a 2nd and a 3rd...