Which list of champions do you agree with most?

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have a look at list and vote which org you think has the best champs:

    HEAVYWEIGHT - (unlimited)
    WBC - Samuel Peter 30-1 (23 KOs)
    WBA - Ruslan Chagaev 24-0-1 NC (17 KOs)
    IBF - Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 KOs)
    WBO - Wladimir Klitschko 50-3 (44 KOs)
    Ring - WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO

    CRUISERWEIGHT - (190 pounds)
    WBC - David Haye 21-1 (20 KOs)
    WBA - David Haye 21-1 (20 KOs) / Firat Arslan 28-3-1 (18 KOs)
    IBF - Steve Cunningham 21-1 (11 KOs)
    WBO - David Haye 21-1 (20 KOs)
    Ring - DAVID HAYE

    LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT - (175 pounds)
    WBC - Chad Dawson 25-0-1 NC (17 KOs)
    WBA - Danny Green 25-3 (22 KOs)
    IBF - Clinton Woods 41-3-1 (24 KOs)
    WBO - Zsolt Erdei 28-0 (17 KOs)
    Ring - BERNARD HOPKINS

    SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT - (168 pounds)
    WBC - Joe Calzaghe 44-0 (32 KOs)
    WBA - Joe Calzaghe 44-0 (32 KOs) / Anthony Mundine 31-3 (23 KOs)
    IBF - Lucian Bute 22-0 (18 KOs)
    WBO - Joe Calzaghe 44-0 (32 KOs)
    Ring - JOE CALZAGHE

    MIDDLEWEIGHT - (160 pounds)
    WBC - Kelly Pavlik 32-0 (29 KOs)
    WBA - Felix Sturm 29-2-1 (13 KOs)
    IBF - Arthur Abraham 26-0 (21 KOs)
    WBO - Kelly Pavlik 32-0 (29 KOs)
    Ring - KELLY PAVLIK

    JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT - (154 pounds)
    WBC - Vernon Forrest 40-2-0-1 (29 KOs)
    WBA - Joachim Alcine 30-0 (19 KOs)
    IBF - Verno Phillips 42-10-1-1 (21 KOs)
    WBO - Sergei Dzindziruk 34-0 (22 KOs)
    Ring - VERNON FORREST

    WELTERWEIGHT - (147 pounds)
    WBC - Floyd Mayweather Jr. 39-0 (25 KOs)
    WBA - Miguel Cotto 31-0 (25 KOs) / Yuriy Nuzhnenko 27-0 (13 KOs)
    IBF - Kermit Cintron 29-1 (27 KOs)
    WBO - Paul Williams 33-0 (24 KOs)
    Ring - FLOYD MAYWEATHER

    JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT - (140 pounds)
    WBC - Junior Witter 36-1-2 (21 KOs)
    WBA - Andreas Kotelnik 29-2-1 (13 KOs)
    IBF - Paul Malignaggi 24-1 (5 KOs)
    WBO - Ricardo Torres 32-1 (28 KOs)
    Ring - RICKY HATTON

    LIGHTWEIGHT - (135 pounds)
    WBC - David Diaz 34-1-1 (17 KOs) / Joel Casamayor 36-3-1 (22 KOs)
    WBA - Nate Campbell 32-5-1 (25 KOs) / Jose Alfaro 20-3-1 NC (18 KOs)
    IBF - Nate Campbell 32-5-1 (25 KOs)
    WBO - Nate Campbell 32-5-1 (25 KOs) / Joel Casamayor 36-3-1 (22 KOs)
    Ring - JOEL CASAMAYOR

    JUNIOR LIGHTWEIGHT - (130 pounds)
    WBC - Manny Pacquiao 46-3-2 (35 KOs)
    WBA - Edwin Valero 23-0 (23 KOs)
    IBF - Mzonke Fana 27-3 (10 KOs)
    WBO - Alex Arthur 26-1 (19 KOs) / Joan Guzman 28-0 (17 KOs)
    Ring - MANNY PACQUIAO

    FEATHERWEIGHT - (126 pounds)
    WBC - In Jin Chi 31-3-1 (18 KOs) / Jorge Linares 25-0 (16 KOs)
    WBA - Chris John 41-0-1 (22 KOs)
    IBF - Robert Guerrero 22-1-1-1 NC (15 KOs)
    WBO - Steven Luevano 35-1 (15 KOs)
    Ring - ROBERT GUERRERO

    JUNIOR FEATHERWEIGHT - (122 pounds)
    WBC - Israel Vazquez 43-4 (31 KOs)
    WBA - Celestino Caballero 28-2 (19 KOs)
    IBF - Steve Molitor 27-0 (10 KOs)
    WBO - Daniel Ponce De Leon 34-1 (30 KOs)
    Ring - ISRAEL VAZQUEZ

    BANTAMWEIGHT - (118 pounds)
    WBC - Hozumi Hasegawa 23-2 (7 KOs)
    WBA - Wladimir Sidorenko 21-0-2 (7 KOs)
    IBF - Joseph Agbeko 25-1 (22 KOs)
    WBO - Gerry Penalosa 53-6-2 (36 KOs)
    Ring - HOZUMI HASEGAWA

    JUNIOR BANTAMWEIGHT - (115 pounds)
    WBC - Cristian Mijares 34-3-2 (14 KOs)
    WBA - Alexander Munoz 32-2 (27 KOs)
    IBF - Dimitri Kirilov 29-3 (9 KOs)
    WBO - Fernando Montiel 36-2-1 (27 KOs)
    Ring - FERNANDO MONTIEL

    FLYWEIGHT - (112 pounds)
    WBC - Daisuke Naito 32-2-3 (20 KOs)
    WBA - Takefumi Sakata 32-4-2 (15 KOs)
    IBF - Nonito Donaire 19-1 (12 KOs)
    WBO - Omar Narvaez 26-0-2 (16 KOs)
    Ring - NONITO DONAIRE

    JUNIOR FLYWEIGHT - (108 pounds)
    WBC - Edgar Sosa 30-5 (16 KOs)
    WBA - Brahim Asloum 23-2 (9 KOs)
    IBF - Ulises Solis 26-1-2 (20 KOs)
    WBO - Ivan Calderon 31-0 (6 KOs)
    Ring - IVAN CALDERON

    STRAWWEIGHT - (105 pounds)
    WBC - Oleydong Sithsamerchai 25-0 (9 KOs)
    WBA - Yutaka Niida 23-1-3 (9 KOs)
    IBF - Florante Condes 22-3-1 (20 KOs)
    WBO - Iván Calderon 29-0 (6 KOs)
    Ring - YUTAKA NIIDA
     
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  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    If you're going to do this poll, at least list the proper ring champs. There are only 10 ring champs. Many of those guys that you have listed as Ring champs aren't. This of course makes your poll null and void.
     
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  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the event that its vacant, the no.1 ranked is the highest regarded by the ring. therefore it takes its place as excluding fighters from 1 org will be an obvious disadvantage.
     
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  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Sorry, this totally invalidates your poll. You can't make up your own rules as to who the ring champ is.
     
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  5. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    none
     
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  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We are looking at which fighters the org recognises as the best in each division. Its obvious if an org doesnt have a champ they recognise no.1 as the best....
     
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  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Let's look at the real Ring champs vs. the WBC champs

    HW

    WBC: Sam Peter Ring: none. advantage:WBC

    CW

    WBC: David Haye Ring: David Haye. advantage:push

    LHW

    WBC: Chad Dawson Ring: Bernard Hopins. advantage:WBC

    SMW: Calzaghe Ring: Calzaghe. advantage: Push

    MW

    WBC: Pavlik Ring: Pavlik. advantage: Push

    JMW

    WBC: Forrest Ring: none. advantage: WBC

    WW

    WBC: Mayweather Ring: Mayweather. advantage: push

    JWW

    WBC: Witter Ring: Hatton. advantage: WBC

    LW

    WBC: Diaz Ring: Casamayor advantage: Ring

    SFW

    WBC: Pacquiao Ring: Pacquiao advantage: Push

    FW

    WBC: Linares Ring: None advantage: WBC

    SBW

    WBC: Vasquez Ring: Vasquez advantage: Push

    BW

    WBC: Hasegawa Ring: None advantage:WBC

    JBW

    WBC: Mijares Ring: None advantage: WBC

    FW

    WBC: Naito Ring: None advantage: WBC


    JFW

    WBC: Sosa Ring: Calderon advantage : Ring

    SW

    WBC: Sithsamerchai Ring: None advantage : WBC


    Final Tally

    WBC: 9 Ring: 2 Push: 7
     
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  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Look at your thread title. It clearyl ask what list of "champions" do you agree with most.
     
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  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wait a minute, you are comparing 1 org champ to anothers none existant champ? lol. Why not compare it to the ring's highest regarded fighter which the no.1 ranked, afterall, the champ is nothing more than the org's recognised best fighter in division.
     
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  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    If the ring doesn't have a champ, then they don't recognize anyone as the best in that division. Samuel Peter is certainly better than Vacant. Even if we just compare the actual ring champs to the WBC champs in the same division, the WBC wins.
     
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  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    WTF?

    Heavyweight advantage RING

    LHW advantage RING

    154 advantage RING

    WW PUSH Why did you give the advantage to the WBC when they both have the same champ? that pretty much proves your bias

    JWW advantage RING

    FW advantage RING (coming from a big linares fan)

    JBW advantage RING
     
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  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The WW one was a mistake. That should be a push. Furthermore, I'm trying to prove a point. Many of the divsions he listed don't even have a ring champ. The thread ask who has the better list of champions. The Ring does not have a HW champ listed. How can the Ring have an advantage over the WBC at HW when they don't even have a HW champ?
     
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  13. PH|LLA

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    cause not having a champ is better than having someone who is not worthy as champ.
     
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  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Are you kidding me? Something is better than nothing. No way in hell a non existent champ is better than an actual champ.
     
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  15. venbox

    venbox Active Member Full Member

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    Paul Williams isnt 33 - 0 anymore since Quintana took him to school, and that was a few weeks ago. I guess he also lost his paper title, so at least at 147 your list is crearly wrong.
     
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