Both fighters talked a LOT and both were exposed when they stepped up and fought elite boxers. Hamed was cockier than Haye, and fell harder from grace. Haye was a degree less cocky but was never really a factor in the HW division. I'm not saying it's embarassing to lose to an ATG in MAB or Wlad, but the way these two tornado's of british hype acted didn't allow them to stomach a loss. It is important to note that while Hamed did a bit better than Haye in his fight with MAB, he was also expected to do a lot better than Haye. At the same time, while Haye was shut out, boxing analysts gave him a punchers chance at best.
Haye didn't really get smacked around as Naz did, but he also ran and flopped like mad. :think Considering that Haye was supposed to lose anyway (to any even halfway intelligent mong, anyhow), I'll say his loss was a bit less embarrassing.
Haye for me. Hamed tried, he tried his way and was easily outboxed. Haye never really tried until the 11th, after all the smack talk he never put his neck on the line to knock the man out which was clearly what he was guna have to do.
MAB-Hamed being lopsided is one of the biggest myths in boxing. MAB won clearly but he didn't dominate and shut out The Prince. Wlad shut Haye out and he wasn't competitive. Haye was really humbled for the amount of **** he talked.
Hmm... Probably Naz. As IB stated, Haye's defeat wasn't really a surprise (he himself knew he'd most likely lose), but Hamed's simply shattered his ego and his career.
This. When people talk about cockiness. Hamed was always cocky/arrogant...he didn't need that to talk himself in to a bout, that's the way he was. It was always going to be humbling once he got that first defeat. But Haye talked that much crap for a number of years looking for that one bout with either brother. His humbling was always going to be worse.
Haye for me without doubt. Say what you will about Hamed but he took the defeat on the chin afterwards and didn't use any ludicrous excuses. MAB was superb that night and i'm not discrediting him but Hamed was on the slide as opposed to Haye who was at his optimum. Hamed was still trying to win, while Haye was looking to survive. Hamed>Haye all day long.
I'm a self-confessed Barrera fanboy but I do admit the poetic justice he administered to Hamed wasn't as one-sided as some like to remember. But it was marvellous. I don't think they're that far apart as Haye had no answers at all for Wlad. But Hamed does enough(or not) to take this one.
While there should be no shame in losing to Wladimir Klitschko or Marco Antonio Barrera in your respective division to me this comes down to who actually put forth an effort. Naz tried unsuccessfully but he was simply outclassed by an elite fighter with a coherent game plan. Haye on the other hand was afraid to take chances and seemed to be happy to last the distance; it was as though not getting embarrassed and possibly getting in a lucky shot was part of his game plan. I did a thread a while back asking if "Did Haye have the talent to beat Klitschko but simply lack the courage?" The way I see it both fighters had the answer but Prince Naseem at least gave it a college try. Shouldn't take away from Wlad's win though, Haye simply bitched out because he was afraid to get stopped.
And ive never cringed as much after the fight as i did when the toe excuses came out, i was up for Haye but at that moment i just wished hed kept it to himself. That alone makes it worse for me.