Which middleweight takes all the punches that Hearns landed and walks through them like Hagler

I think GGG could, but he doesn`t take shots flush, he rides them. McCallum took Jackson`s best shots but was badly shaken at light middle. McCllellan another who took Jackson`s punches but they weren`t comming as much as Tommy`s v Hagler, so I don`t know.

 

Lamotta.

 

Mickey Walker and LaMotta

 

Eubank senior had a great chin .Yep Watson dropped him but that s quite far in to the fight ,after Watson had thrown everything at him .Maybe if he'd been in there with Tommy he'd take his Best early on ?

 

Many went the distance with Hearns at 160.

Barkley and Hagler took his best, then knocked him out.

Hearns was not a devastating puncher at 160.

Everyone talks about Hearns' KO of Shuler, but that was more the exception than the rule. Shuler didn't have a great chin.

 

Hi all, I have to disagree with the proposition that Hagler was hit with Hearn’s best punches and walked through them. I don’t believe Hearns landed anything on Marvin comparable to the right hands he hit guys like Duran, Cuevas, Schuler, Andries or even Leonard with.

Marvin’s swarming pressure shortened the space between himself and Hearns by the thirty second mark of round one and from then on Tommy was fighting off the back foot or worse still the ropes. Hearns could only punch with maximum power when he was set and had his weight on his front foot. Tommy was never the kind of fighter who could hurt you inside or even at mid range let alone moving backwards Robinson or Roy Jones style. Tommy needed space to land the jab and then start dropping those beautiful right crosses and left hooks to the liver.

I also believe Hearns was flummoxed by Hagler’s southpaw stance as Tommy was always a pretty robotic fighter despite his gifts of size and speed. Is Marvin the only southpaw Hearns ever fought ?

I reckon people are underestimating Marvin’s defensive ability when they claim he walked straight through Hearns best punches. I don’t believe any middleweight could just walk Hearns down without being defensively responsible unless they were prepared to absorb tremendous punishment like Iran Barkley did. Even Kinchen ( another short, powerful middleweight who worried Hearns with pressure ) was careful early against Hearns.

Cheers All.

 

Ggg isnt walking through jack $#!%. He was too timid to walk through 5'8 moderate punching canelos punches after begging him for a "Mexican style" brawl. He stayed behind his jab and wouldnt engage Lemiux. He wouldnt grit his teeth and go for the ko after dropping Jacobs. This idea ggg is some iron jawed slugger whose willing to take 3 to give 1 needs to stop because nothing could be further from the truth.

He would take a few bombs from Hearns and would quickly abandon any gameplan involving walking hearns down and going for a ko. Im not saying ggg winning by ko is impossible--hearns chin wasnt great--but he certainly wouldn't do so by eating shots and slugging like a maidana or Chavez.

 

One of the best posts of the year. I was coming in to say Hearns never did land his Sunday best. He hit him hard for sure but never with the type of punches you mentioned. It was a great tactical fight from a guy that certainly wasn't guaranteed to produce them in his biggest fights. It was his best bet by far however as Hearns was always going to go well from a distance while it lasted blasting away at that scar tissue with his sharp jab and missile like right hand. Hearns would have dictated in an outside fight while it lasted so going inside was the smart move.

 

He fought a guy in 1979 named Maunsurin who was southpaw.. I forget how to spell it. He was known for winning the title with the least amounts of fights. I think.

 

That right hand in the first round was huge.

Even if it wasn't his absolute best, is anyone on here prepared to say that Hagler wouldn't have been able to take Hearns' absolute best right hand. There is absolutely no evidence to say he couldn't.
Sure, a blown up Duran at 154, a 147 lb. Cuevas, and a 160 lb guy with a moderate physical strength and chin, Shuler, couldn't.

Tough chinned Murray Sutherland, Ernie Singletary and Doug Dewitt all went the distance with Hearns at 160 lbs.

And the reason Hagler didn't get hit at range is because he had the strength to easily get inside on the spindly legged Hearns. Same with Barkley.

The premise seems to be the Hagler was the rare exception who could survive a devastating 160 lb puncher like Thomas Hearns, when the evidence points to that being far from the case.

 

There is no evidence he could or couldn't. It was a big right hand he took for sure but it wasn't close to the style of Hearns classic right hands.

No mention of Roldan? Every time Hearns landed on the bullish Argentinian he staggered or fell right from the get go.

Sutherland was Hearns comeback fight after breaking his right hand. You describe Sutherland as tough chinned and i would agree. Despite not knocking him down or out Hearns did hurt him in the first and last rounds.

Singletary was Hearns comeback fight after being stopped by Leonard. He went straight to Middleweight and was actually outweighed by 6 pounds as Singletary came in over 160 to Hearns 155. Hearns had in no way adjusted or built up to the weight properly as he would later on. On top of this the only time Ernie was stopped was on a swollen eye.

Dewitt tho hurt a couple of times showed fine durability. Good effort. Hearns moved up to 175 next fight and dropped Andries all over the place. Hearns was still icing guys at 175 and above, his power didn't take holiday at 160.

Sure there are some fights one might think jeez how did that guy go the distance etc but we all know boxing is littered with such occurrences and they are a dime a dozen. Everything needs to be looked at in perspective.

 

Supposedly in the never came off Hagler - Hearns Rematch, Hearns was expected to fight like you describe above.

 

Yes and it still would have been difficult with Hagler advancing hard. He would have found more space than he did tho and conserved a bit of energy. People tend to forget that Hagler may not have been far away from being stopped on cuts.