Which of Ray Robinson's opponents had a style like Mayweather

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  1. Gr8Mandingo

    Gr8Mandingo Member banned

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    I'm not suggesting Floyd has faced anyone like SRR...
    But he has faced guys with great hand speed and great accuracy like Manny Packeow and made him look ordinary

    Same could be said for Shane Mosely, and don't forget when they fought Mosely was coming off an anhilation of Antonio Margarito, I was at that fight, Mosely showed plenty of speed an accuracy in that fight

    Which of SRR's opponents had the ability to make Robinson hunt him down all night only to stuff him with a right every time he gets too close? Which Robinson's opponents could sit on the ropes and duck and twist and block 80% of his lightning fast combos and then bust him in the mouth and be out the way ?

    I think Mayweather could adapt to what SRR was bringing better than Robinson could to him

    I think it would be anticlimactic too like the Manny Packeow fight...May would take it that easy...
    SRR would probably come out at the press conference and say he had a hurt shoulder even
     
  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SRR is 3 inches taller than Floyd,... SRR at 5'11", with their reaches equal. SRR's footspeed was equal to Floyd's, and SRR could hit harder. In reality, Floyd would be hard pressed to avoid being TKO'ed.
     
  3. Gr8Mandingo

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    Floyd's chin is proven. He's faced every big hitter of his era. His style is defensive but he has been hit plenty of times and no one has been able to phase him
    Canelo, PAC, cotto, Mosely, Corrales, hatton, Castillo all hit him, none of them could do anything about tho
     
  4. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a note of admiration that Floyd was only really tagged once by the above, Mosely, and he recovered well though shaken. The difference in all the above and Robinson is that he could take out almost any fighter with both hands to the head or body and could switch to either in a moment. At welter for those who saw him live like Burt, you get a unanimous #1 all time for across the board reasons. If Floyd was able to avoid getting stopped his much lower output offence would be kept in check by Robby's equal skill and bigger, far more powerful ****nal. Gavilan with his rock hard jaw and fast offence kept it close with Ray but Floyd never had that kind of output.
     
  5. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its how I see it also.
     
  6. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny had nothing in the fight for several obvious reasons, whatever he once could have done against Floyd was long gone. Mosely against Floyd, though he caught him with one powerful right hand early, was one punch at a time and nothing comparable to Robinson's offence. Mayweather blocking only 80% of Robby's ****nal or taking it easy would have brought a likely early finish. A win for Floyd against the welter Robinson is hugely improbable.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    When did the people you've named catch Floyd in the jaw with clean, hard punches? Best example is Mosley, who wobbled him a bit. Floyd doesn't eat punches; he avoids them.
     
  8. Gr8Mandingo

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    Yes so idk where everyone gets this notion that Floyd would just go out there and get lit up against Robinson...
    I don't see that happening
     
  9. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bernard Ducosen was really fast...although stylistically he kind of resembled LMR with his in and out style.
    I think Robinson would beat Mayweather by clear decision.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Flip the question around and ask what could Floyd do to possibly win?
     
  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Kid Gavilan sometimes used a shoulder roll, but not nearly with the same consistency as Floyd.
     
  12. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you think Mayweather ever fought a guy who could hit as hard as Robinson and that Robinson wouldn't drop him like a sack of spuds you are kidding yourself. Not only would Ray have landed that hard KO blow he would have had no trouble hitting Floyd at will, there is a vast gap between these two.
     
  13. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can I have the same drugs you have been smoking mate ??? they must be truly mind altering. Land his right ? he could never have hurt Ray hitting him with two hundred of his rights and yet the opposite case is that Ray could drop Floyd with one right... or left, He makes mincemeat out of your chump.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can't think of many who had a style similar to Floyd's. Maybe Randy Turpin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yvi_kskucQ

    Turpin depended on the jab. Or he'd launch a straight right with no jab behind it. He clinched a lot. It wasn't a style Robinson looked good against. Robinson looked better against fighters who came to him aggressively.

    I disagree with those who say Robinson would KO Mayweather. A lot of guys went the distance with Robinson. Ray had a couple of highlight reel one-punch KOs, but he usually had to pound a guy with a lot of shots to take him out. And Robinson wasn't going to hit Mayweather with a lot of shots.

    I don't think Mayweather would be nearly busy enough to win a decision (although Turpin did once). But I don't see Robinson winning by KO either. Mayweather has never come close to be stopped EVER.

    It's got distance fight written all over it. And, like you said, probably not a very exciting distance fight. You can count all of Mayweather's exciting fights on one hand.

    So, more times than not, Robinson by decision. But, if Turpin could outpoint Robinson, Mayweather would be a live dog in a stinker of a fight.
     
  15. Gannicus

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    The closest we can get is probably Kid Gavilan.
    Mayweather however would be the best fighter SRR would have fought.
    Mayweather genuinely has a good shot in this fight. Stylistically, it's a fight that favours Mayweather.
    Mayweather has one of the best chins ever, and will strictly look to out-point SRR.