Which of the following fighters are "SuperHeavyWeight?"

A 200lbs Louis and a 250lbs Joshua is a mismatch

In Louis's favor, of course

 

The thread above is not from the Classic forum and is about height. If that's the best you can up with, I feel quite validated in accusing you of making a straw man argument.

 

Well Superheavyweight isn't a real weight class, so you can more or less define it as you like. The fact is, in an open weight division like Heavyweight, size disparities between combatants have to be taken into account at some level, but so does the relative skill level of the two combatants.

When most people talk about Superheavyweights, the general consensus seems to be that they're not merely big men but big men with the skills and athletic abilities relative to their size to put them among the upper echelon of similarly sized men. In the past these were virtually unheard of, since the bigger men tended to be clumsy oafs or lacking in world class skills, such that smaller fighters could compete on even terms with them. Nowadays that doesn't appear to be the case as much, hence the need for a term to describe the fighters who not only possess a size advantage over their opponents but the skills and physical abilities to make it very hard for even the best smaller fighters to compete with them.

Think of it like this. In every other weightclass, for every fighter in the top ten who represents the best of that division there's a whole slew of ever worsening fighters who are only members of that weightclass due to their weight. At some point the size advantages they would have relative to a fighter in a lower weight class would not be big enough to overcome the skill disparity, and hence, if you were to put, say, Errol Spence in against some garbagy top fifty SMW he would have a very real chance of beating their brakes off. But when talking about the very best in each weightclass squaring off then size and weight start to become a much bigger factor because the difference in skill level has narrowed. That's the case nowadays with fighters in the modern HW division, where we're starting to see more and more big men with world class skills and physical abilities who are, by virtue of the division, able to compete with much smaller men.

 

Not only probably. Posters saying such thing in here would be in a very clear minority.

 

Louis had a glass jaw. He's not lasting long.

 

I'm remarking on your statement that posters have been carrying on some sort of crusade boosting size for "about a decade," its BS.I know it and you know it.

 

72 fights over 17 years ,stopped twice both times by world champions and excellent punchers.

 

Wow, the thread that you cited doesn’t seem to support your claim at all.

 

Almost as bad example as when he posted that video of young Ali in "old timey format" to show how much much worse that format made a fighter look. Just as Ali looked great in the video he posted, this thread contradicted his claim rather than supported it. The thread was about a minimum required height, not weight, it was in another forum and the Classic regulars that I saw had posted at a quick glance disagreed with the thread's premise.