Which of the following would beat Tubbs at his best?

Quite possibly all of them.

 

Of course not,..never did I imply that....but fighters with those deficiencies that you mentioned were the types that Tubbs would fare better against...unlike both Conn and Loughran who were both faster and more skilled than Tubbs, and would have offset Tubb's advantage in size with their speed and skills and would have negated that size differential.
Conn and Loughran were the only two of the fighters listed that I picked to beat Tubbs.

 

Corbett absolutely smokes him in his boots. Tubbs has the worst chance against Corbett. This is a mismatch.

Really hard for me to say John L without having seen him. But my intuition tells me that if he was as great as they say he was, he would beat Tubbs too.

He would give Burns a really tough fight. I think Burns would pull it out late in the fight with his power.

Loughran has really good footwork. I worry about his right hand at his waist, but he showed me in the Carnera fight that he has the footwork and speed to get away with it. I don't think Tubbs would pose a problem with Loughrans low hands because Tony is not a big puncher. I pick Loughran here too, using his speed to beat Tubbs to the punch.


I don't like Conn matching up with Tubbs. I think they both play a very similar game of efficient footwork, and smart boxing. I like Tubbs physical advantage over Conn here. I mean you take the Conn from the Bettina fight, and the Tubbs from the Bowe or Page fight, and you have two guys playing a game of jabs and counters. Smart and efficient lateral movement, but nothing too explosive or dynamic. I don't think Conn has an answer for someone like Tubbs. Tubbs wins.


Layne is a tough call. I worry about a style like his for the same reasons as Conn. But I like how Rex looks when he mixes it up with aggressive attacks. His punches carry a bit of oomph. I like Tubbs rhythm and pacing against someone like Rex. I'm going with Tony on this one.



Corbett is the biggest mismatch.

 

If you watch Klomptons footage of Corbett with a clear mind, it's very very obvious that he is on another class altogether than any other fighter in this thread. (Maybe not John L, but no footage makes the point harder to make)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAPBsPVgW1A

By clear mind I mean you're not being influenced by the media quality, but you can see it for what it is.

Corbetts agility, footwork, and feinting is magical. Tubbs aint touching that.

 

Should that really come as a shock to anyone?

I mean it’s obvious that he boxed everybody’s ears off.

That didn’t happen by accident.

 

This

 

I don’t think of Joe Louis as an immobile fighter with limited skills & slow reflexes, but look what Conn did to him!

 

This is what I am trying to say:

There were fighters in that era who were renowned for aspects of their technique, such as Fitzsimmons for his finishing ability, and Corbett was just running rings round them.

It seems inescapable, that he was very good at hitting and not getting hit, however he was doing it.

 

Tubbs never had a true "best" to me. He was pretty gifted & definitely smart. I think the 80's had plenty of talent but most of the fighters underachieved. Tubbs was pretty good & had he fought at 215 or so, who knows? Why a fighter who's specialty was speed would come in consistently overweight is beyond me.

 

Tubbs didn’t beat anybody easily!

 

Sullivan and Corbett dominated their era but they are not real fighters, but this inconsistent drug addled fighter is a real fighter?

 

Corbett could have taught Tubbs, a lot more than Tubbs could have taught Corbett.

I am not even including how to keep in shape!