Which of the top 10 Welterweights does best against Mayweather?

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  1. Super Hans

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    The poll speaks for itself :arran
     
  2. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bradley is a tenacious sod who while not having bags of power does everything elseright. I think his recent wars have taken something out of him but it would be a meaningful fight all round.

    Brook - might just have the strength and timing to cause mayweather problems but Brook fought nobodies for two long and has no money generating power

    Khan- vulnerable - but has the speed to match Floyd both in hand and foot - height and reach as well possibly. But Floyds ring IQ and sheer skills should win him the fight - but its an interesting fight - and Floyd doesn't seem keen it - which maybe tells us something.
     
  3. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Khan and Thurman have the speed, reach and power to cause Floyd problems. Brook is a touch too slow for Floyd and is primarily a counter-puncher. Not sure how he will out counter Floyd. But on the flip side, could beat both Khan and Thurman.

    Styles make fights and you need a boxer with attributes of speed and reach to test Floyd.
     
  4. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd say probably Tim Bradley.

    I don't see the other guys really giving him much problems. Maybe Porter due to his aggressive style, but he's smaller than FLoyd and has a stumpy, short reach as well so I could see Floyd giving him a lesson from a distance.

    Although Bradley lacks power, he's tough as nails, has an excellent resume and has good overall ability. I'd imagine the fight would be an 8-4 type of decision for Floyd.

    EDIT: I didn't see Pacman's name on the list. I guess I'd pick him just because he's clearly the most superior fighter on that list, and if you believe his arm injury was the reason for his lack of punch output, than MAYBE he could make a better fight in a rematch. But I wouldn't expect a different outcome really as Manny is just too short for Floyd and honestly, a little too slow at this juncture in his career.
     
  5. Super Hans

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    :nono Shot Pacquiao in no match for Brook. :deal
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I admire your admiration for Kell Brook, but a punch drunk Pacman is someone I'd favor over him.

    I was impressed with his win over Porter, but haven't been impressed with anything he's done ever since.

    It looks like he's going to go the Calzaghe route for his career and stay sequestered in England for at least the foreseeable future. Based on Hearns' comments yesterday, he wants to build up Brook as a big England PPV fighter. Sounds eerily similar to Calzaghe in that regard.

    It would be a shame too, because I was impressed with the fact that Brook came across the pond and fought Porter. I hope he continues fighting in the states against the top guys instead of wasting his career away in England fighting absolute tomato cans.
     
  7. Super Hans

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    Kell Brook got stabbed after Porter and was on the shelf for a few months.

    When he fought Jo Jo Dan he had less than a month left to fight him or would have been forced to relinquish his belt- which of these big name fighters with Haymon or Arum would've been interested in fighting Kell Brook without a belt?

    He fought Gavin at 5 weeks notice after Matchroom lost the Dirrell-DeGale purse bid. Gavin was the top ranked contender by the IBF available after Khan, Porter, Bundu and Bradley all choose different options. Which fighter in the top 15 of the IBF who wasn't coming off a defeat so could fight for a title would be willing to come to the UK for a small fee given what had already been spent on the card, at 5 weeks notice.

    People who are hating on Brook's choice of opponents don't realise they are doing it for two reasons:

    1- Brook didn't want to forefit his title and have little market value
    2- Brook fought on May 30th against a fighter he would have likely been mandated to fight later in the year anyway, rather than stopping at home that night.
     
  8. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know what, I forgot about his stabbing incident so for that I do apologize. But I still maintain he had no business taking on Frankie Gavin. These tune-up fights against guys barely ranked in the top 25 that title holders are taking on are unnecessary and just an impediment to the progression of their careers.

    He would've been better off not even fighting and trying to secure a bigger fight with any top 10 ranked WW. As of now, the most sensible matchup for him is a rematch with Porter in the UK. But I have my doubts that fight will happen anytime soon, if ever.

    These fighters that are trying to establish themselves as the best in their division should stop fighting these tune up fights against guys that have no credibility whatsoever. I'm not only holding Brook to this standard, I think it should be applied to all the guys at WW that have aspirations of being the kingpin in the division such as Khan and Thurman who are both also guilty of taking on less than stellar competition.

    People criticize Mayweather for his matches, but he's been ONLY taking on top 5 ranked fighters in his division for the last 10 years, with most of them being champions at the time he faced them. I wish all fighters "cherrypicked" like Mayweather does. it would make for much more competitive matches.
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I think Pac in a rematch but I'd take Brook over that fight.
     
  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Ok....under this intense stress I pick Lucas Matthysse. Catchweight of 143.
     
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  12. Super Hans

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    If Brook didn't fight that night, he would've most likely cost Kevin Mitchell and Lee Selby the chance to fight for their world titles in the UK as Matchroom needed a PPV platform to be able to afford to bring these guys to the UK

    But the fact of the matter is this: the top 2 ranked IBF contenders after Bundu, Khan, Bradley, Porter and Sadam Ali all choose other options where Kevin Bizier (who had already lost to Jo Jo Dan) and Frankie Gavin- Gavin would've won a fight had a final eliminator been ordered and Brook would've had to fight Gavin anyway before the year is out. So basically you are giving Brook stick for fighting Gavin on May 30th rather than fighting him and the end of the year- where his intention was to have the Gavin fight as well as, not instead of two further fights.

    Porter has done nothing to deserve a rematch and turned down the chance to become Brook's mando to fight Broner instead. And I think you are assuming that Haymon will just allow Porter to come to the UK.

    And also bare in mind, Brook could've done absolutely nothing more to try and get Khan in the ring.

    Mayweather is held to a higher standard because everyone is willing to fight him and everyone is an option for him. Yet he doesn't always choose the best.

    Do you think Brook didn't throw his name in the hat for the Mayweather payday? Would do for a Pacquiao fight? Has been doing for a Khan fight? Do you think Haymon really wants to test his top clients against Brook?
     
  13. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Mayweather has been fighting HOF'S AND world titlists for the majority of his career, he is one of the greatest ever (Top 9), and TBE in terms of skills.

    He would whoop any WW, just like how he whooped the **** out of Pac.
     
  14. Super Hans

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    He is shamefully ducking The Special One
     
  15. KO byBRIGGS

    KO byBRIGGS Making a comeback Full Member

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    No one on that list has what it takes.