Which of these 2 heavyweights have the better RESUME??

You forgot that Peter fought Wlad.. but based on what you mentioned - Povetkin sounds beter.

 

Fought and lost.

Povetkin(in his 13th and 14th pro fights) beet Donald and Byrd who are better than McCline and Toney in an impressive fashion, rather than Peter strugling with McCline and Toney (in his 28th and 30th pro fights).

 

Sam Peter clearly is more distinguished as a professional.

When Povetkin actually steps in the ring with the consensus #1, as well as faring somewhat fine, then we can make this argument. As it is, even in a loss, Samuel Peter is more proven than Povetkin.

Don't forget who Byrd is at 37 years old. If you like, you can compare him to an old James Toney. But no more than that. He was not champion when Povetkin beat him, nor was he really in a state of being able to recapture a title. Part of my prediction in that fight was based on how much Byrd has deteriorated over the years.

 

I understand your alliance to Peter but facts are facts.

Byrd at 37 being a 2 times ex HW champion is 10 times better than McCline at 37 (never achieved anything in HW) and Toney 39 (never achieved anything in HW) taken together.

 

I don't dislike Povetkin but you I do. You have absolutely no objectivity when it comes to Eastern European boxers. I outlined clearly in my post that Sam Peter's experience with Waldo is far more proof that he belongs in the top 5 than Povetkin's questionmark at that level. But you will never get that. As proof of your direct reply to my quote.

 

LOL.
You know we do.
And he was much better, the #1 before Klitschko beat him. Remember?

 

He was also the guy who barely beat McCline and Golota and Oquendo.

Don't forget that.

 

Good and objective post Cal. And I echo your final statement.

Should Povetkin get by Brock/Chambers and even in a losing effort give Waldo a close fight, he will rightfully be up there with the top 5. If not right inside of it. If he goes all the way and beats Waldo, well then we have a new #1.

 

I don't like you either but I am trying to maintain a dialoge here about the topic. I may be biased towards certain E. European fighters, I agree. You on the other hand hate on each and every one of them. But this is not about you and me. This is about the fighters: Peter and Povetkin and who they beat and how in their respective carrers. Even though Peter was much more successfull than most in his fight with Waldo he still got completely outboxed but that is still not the point. The point is that Povetkin in his only 14 pro-fights beat a better competition in an impressive manner than Peter in 30 fights.

 

I think the resumes are even, but fighters A's KO wins over Yanqui " The Canvass Sweeper " Diaz, Jeremy "half-man/half-glass" Williams, Juluis " The Falling Oak " Long, ," Little" Gil " should of stayed at 160 lbs , fatass Martinez " are more impressive. Fighter A with quality knock outs over over such opposition, has proven devastating punching power!

 

And how is 39 y.o Toney that in opinions of many lost to Batchelder better than Byrd, or McCline that lost to Zuri Lawrence few fights ago better than Donald???

 

First off you lie. I do not hate all of them. I have alot of respect for most of them except the ones which show shady professionalism in and out of the ring. I also hold Povetkin in high regard, BUT objectively as I do with any of the heavyweights today.

Saying that Povetkin should be higher ranked than Peter is ******ed. And only a true Klitco fanatic would support that sentiment. Byrd as most outlined, presented no problem for Povetkin. I picked him 8-4, and some others predicted TKO and late stoppage. Of course, I guess I gave Byrd more credit than they did. Cal also laid out how Donald was coming off a huge layoff, whereas Sam Peter took McCline on very short notice (who else has done that?).

You need to ask yourself how objective you are being. Because you clearly aren't in my eyes.

 

I've been saying this for a long time. Sam Peter is the result of effective marketing. His mystical power is smoke and mirrors. He never did jack **** to deserve his eliminator against Klitschko or his subsequent eliminator against Toney.

Povetkin's fights before a title eliminator: Donald and Byrd
Peter's fights before a title eliminator: Taurus Sykes and Gilbert Martinez

Pure hype.


PS - Maskaev will beat him.

 

You are calling me a liar? I could pull out your racists posts from no too long ago about E. European fighters that you respect so much.

So I am a Klitco fanatic ? Which one of them??

So you view McCline as the better fighter than Donald ha? That is totaly objective.

I would like to conclude that while Peter is the more experienced and achieved fighter (based in win/loss experience and the interim title that was handed to him) in the HW division, Povetkin did beat the better fighters and did it decisevely.