which of these 4 fighters is the toughest stylistically for Loma at 126 pounds?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez, Morales, Barrera or Pacquiao at 126 lbs?

    I think all 4 present problems for Loma except Marquez.

    We know that Marquez struggles against pure boxers. And what will he do against a guy like Loma? Marquez just won't have the openings to score points. Loma wins 9 rounds to 3. With some rounds embarrassing Marquez.

    Barreras versatility and body punching makes it an even fight.

    Morales length, size and strength could cause problems. But Morales lack of a left hook and lack of commitment to the body could prevent him from winning.

    Pacquiaos sheer power, speed and workrate at 126 could give the relatively fragile Loma issues. He could possibly be overwhelmed.

    Tough to say who gives Loma the biggest problem. But I'm pretty sure that Loma would have completely taken Marquez to class.
     
  2. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you meant to say that All 4 except Pacquiao

    We know that Pacquiao struggles against pure boxers.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao beat the living pis out of Ledwaba. Marquez is not a pure boxer. He's a puncher, counter-puncher. Barreras actually the more well rounded pure boxer than Marquez. Another guy who Pac beat the tar out of.
     
  4. wylan911

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    I could make excuses for MAB, he was too old, his machismo played into Pac's power. Ledwaba was not more pure boxer than Marquez. And Marquez did not have issue with boxers. But he also gave hell to Pac for 4 fights. I'm sorry to have to break it to ya, but Pac always had trouble w/ counter-punchers, and one w/ the speed of Loma, destroys him. Marquez's timing would allow him to keep up.
     
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  5. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think E-Mo could beat him.
     
  6. Salty Dog

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    Remember when the complaint was that JMM wasn't exciting enough? Relied on boxing too much? 126 Marquez looked alot like Finito. Maybe Loma is the goods, but out of that list, it's Marquez that might win and especially in a series.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marquez struggled against Chris John, Freddie Norwood and Mayweather, but he gets a pass on that one due to size.

    Marquez also struggled against a shot MAB.

    He struggles against Hugh quality technicians. He prefers to counter aggressive and physical fighters.

    Loma easily beats Marquez. Marquez can't handle boxers.
     
  8. tinman

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    Ledwaba was faster than Marquez. His jab was lightning. He could slip, duck, block the whole book you name it. His problem was he didn't have the chin and power to get Pac to back off a little.

    Pacquiao does not struggle against pure boxers.

    I mean MAB is a more skilled boxer than Marquez.
     
  9. wylan911

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    Speed does not a pure boxer make. MAB was past his prime when fighting Pacquiao. Boxer's/Counter-punchers that have given Pac trouble: Marquez, Morales, Bradley, Mayweather, Mosley, (albeit he was old, and couldn't pull the trigger, he showed w/ footwork, Manny can get lost) it's 1 am here, so that's all I can think of at the moment. lol
     
  10. tinman

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    The great destroyer thst MAB was past his prime against Pac is this. Barreras best win came after the pac loss. But I digess.

    Pacquiao did not struggle against Mosley. Against Mayweather he was super old thst tells me nothing. He didn't struggle against Bradley come on man.

    Marquez isn't a boxer. I define a boxer as a well rounded technical fighter. Like Barrera or Ledwaba. Marquez was a guy who liked to counter, struggled taking the lead and wasn't very good at changing his styles for each fight. He basically did what he did.
     
  11. wylan911

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    You lost me when you said, JMM isn't a well rounded technical boxer. lol That's what he is MOST, along with having impeccable timing and a master counter-puncher.

    And his best win came after Pac?!? Which one, his spectacular fights with Jr Jones, his thorough domination of Hamed, or his 1st 2 Wars with Morales?
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Barreras best performance was Morales III. When he finally clearly and decisively beat Morales.
     
  13. tinman

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    A well rounded technical fighter can take the lead well and not just counter. Marquez is a counter specialist.
     
  14. wylan911

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    You Do realize that he beat Morales in 3 by MD, right?!? It was Morales 2, that he clearly won.

    He didn't even fight Pac until like his 60th pro fight or something like that.
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Most people though Morales won the second fight bro. Come on you know that.

    Morales III was when Barrera finally kicked Morales' ass thoroughly and cemented his status as a no doubt ATG. Because one dumbass judge didn't score it right means little.