Which of these ATGs did Bud Crawford Out-Jump after tonight?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marvin Hagler
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Pernell Whitaker
    Bernard Hopkins
    Evander Holyfield
    Tommy Hearns
    Alexis Arguello
    Julio Cesar Chavez
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    @asero?!?

    Isn't this your first post in like a year? :lol:

    Big fights always bring 'em home. :deal:
     
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  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    none of them.. Beating Canelo was good but Canelo lost to Bivol of late. that gets him ahead of any of these guys? Not a chance.
     
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    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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  5. Sooncreate3!

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    Holyfield, Julio Cesar Chavez, and possibly (maybe not?) Arguello
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Bud has a better resume and longevity compared to Arguello.
     
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  7. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    Alexis resume before winning his first championship is better than Bud's
     
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  8. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Duran didn't beat SRL and dominate an entire division for years,as the undisputed champ..before going on two unexpected comebacks,I think Bud jumps over him.

    He's still not beating Duran tho, Duran nearly..if not actually beat (but got robbed) Paz in a close fight,he almost became a minor super middleweight champion.
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bud's got a legit case stacked up against Hopkins and Holyfield, as I regard those two guys lower than the rest of the guys listed.
     
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  10. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why does he have to out jump any of them, why all the Chopping & Changing of the TOP ATG's in History as if their Status is suddenly lessened by another, in recent decades often 'lesser' fighters themselves.

    Achievement based listing is Cack.

    P4P then H2H analyses is the best we can accurately do and even then subjectivity 'can' set in.

    Crawford should me counted AMONG Greats, absolutely, no problem,
    but there will still be dozens ahead of him in overall Skill & Superiority and there is never any shame in a Great Fighters scalling behind a Ray Robinson or a Henry Armstrong, that is just Life & Facts of it.

    Last night showed very ordinary performances, but Good and Great fighters can & do do that to each other.

    2 greats last night AMONG a Mariad of Historical Greats, many of which better.
     
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  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Olivares, Escalera, Chacon, Boza Edwards, Watt, Mancini, Pryor
    Burns, Gamboa, Khan, Brook, Porter, Spence, Madrimov, Canelo
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Amazing fight from Crawford .. his ability to carry the weight and keep his speed and power and stamina was fantastic .. I also think the fight exposed Canelo's weaknesses and the fact of how badly he slipped ... Canelo looked slow, Canelo looked tired, Canelo has become a one shot at at time fighter and most importantly his power overrated .. We've watched Canelo win decisions since 2021 and kind of pushed it to the side as if everyone was running but in reality Canelo has faded .. I actually felt at times if Crawford pushed it he might have stopped him ... Kudos to Crawford for a terrific performance but really I was surprised Canelo had so little left.
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I have to say that I am struggling to find historical parallels to what happened last night.

    We honestly can't give Crawford too much credit.
     
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  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Leonard over Hagler, much closer but the inactivity Ray overcame was huge .. Underrated is how Jones put on 25 pounds and diced up Ruiz .. it is a tough match up to draw a distinct equal to .. part of what made it hard to call going in ,,,
     
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