Which of these British Heavyweights in their prime does David Haye beat?

:deal

 

really man, I swear, doing ten rounds and doing fifteen rounds SERIOUSLY distinguishes between contender and champion

I think that if you can do ten then it's more than likely you can do twelve

but fifteen, once you get to ten you're calling on what's within to provide you with another fifty percent of the gruelling scenario you've already been through, plus the fact that your energy is forever dwindling.

Oscar De La Hoya for example, is having major issues with 15 rounds imo

 

Definitely! He's one fighter who, in another era, would've beenanother exciting contender like say, Gaspar Ortega, rather than a 'multi-weight world champ' :-( I'm also willing to bet he might've been stopped a few times, his stamina was always a major issue. This B-Hop would struggle to maintain 15 big time IMO, as much as it pains me to say.

 

I'm off now lad, but we need to start a campaign to get fifteen rounds back. Kidnap Frank ****** and Bob Arum or something.

 

B-Hop would be less problematic than Oscar I think, but I've never really thought about it, you may be right. Hopkins can always rely on truly great boxing mastery as opposed to Oscar, who I don't mean to underrate, but Hopkins>Oscar.

Ok, later lad. Speak to you later my man.

 

And he agreed to fight Tyson, despite being terrified of him, thats real courage IMO.
Im not sure, but I think Tyson was a voluntary defence too, albeit a lucrative one.

 

Oh, of course! But I think Hopkins struggles at pace nowadays, and 15 might be too much for the old man to bear.

 

:good

 

I take it back, didnt remember it being like that.:deal

 

The current incarnation of Hopkins can in no way go 15 rounds imo. That's not a slight on the man either, he's in his late 40's now and it's not as if he's ever had to compete at that distance in any case.

It's possibly the biggest thing I miss in boxing now. The 15 round title fight. Rounds 13-15, the championship rounds. Had Leonard-Hagler been scheduled for 15 I remain convinced Marvin would have took that fight.

Even one of the last 15 rounders I remember seeing, Rocky Lockeridge and Harold Knight still brings back fond memories for me. It was a proper title fight even though at that time Asumah Nelson was probably the real champion.

Holyfield-Qawi, another classic towards the end of the 15 round days. McCauley-Bassa, McGuigan-Pedroza, all these fights I held in far higher esteem than their WBC counterparts simply because of the 15 round distance. ****, even Michael Olajide boxed a 15 rounder against Frank Tate.

Damn, I'm getting nostalgic now, gonna go watch Pazienza-Haugen I and chill out with me olbas oil!

 

:yep 15 rounds were boss.

 

no worries mate

 

Putting Vitali just outside the top 20 is not an outageous claim and I have read this opionion before on a number of occasions but hey Flea-Bitten and his cronies in the Classic can't be wrong can they.



Lets take an historians opinion of the Top HW's of all time. This one is Monte Cox's because it was the first one I found. Feel free to post an alternative list if you don't think Cox is up to much.

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Jack Dempsey
7. Sonny Liston
8. Jim Jeffries
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Mike Tyson
11. Rocky Marciano
12. Joe Frazier
13. Riddick Bowe
14. Evander Holyfield
15. Sam Langford
16. Gene Tunney
17. James J. Corbett
18. Ezzard Charles
19. Jersey Joe Walcott
20. Max Schmeling

After the 20 mark the dvision starts to thin out quite a bit.

Vitali first won a worl title in 1999 and is looking unbeatable 13 years later. On an 11 fight winning streak currently with 3 prior tilte wins to add to that.

Best heavyweight on the planet since Lennox's retirement in 2003. I reckon things are looking good for Vitali when the historians start to put his rating together after the dust settles.

 

Flea Bitten :-( What a twat.

And, again, (can't you read) just giving anther demographic when I used the classic board as an example. But of course, your cronies say it's reasonable, so there you go.

Not a bad selection there, but there's a few more to go before Vitali gets a look-in.

 

Christ! Bowe at 13 :-( Bloody 'ell Monte. You do know the likes of Cox are no more a historian than me and you?