which of these old school american kickboxers would have made the best boxer???

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  1. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    guys remember american kickboxing
    with the pants and karate kicks above the waist

    well in its time
    it produced some really famous names
    "world"champions

    joe lewis
    benny the jet
    bill superfoot wallace
    dennis alexio
    rufas bothers
    "The Monster Man" Everett Eddie
    don the dragon wilson


    there were more ofcourse

    anyways if all turned to boxing
    which would have done the best?


    and just for fun
    here is a match between joe lewis and bill wallace in
    their 40's

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEKbKHmo_Q[/ame]
     
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  2. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Bruce Lee could have been a good boxer.

    Joe Lewis and Chuck Norris may have been good boxers. Lewis almost became a boxer.
     
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  3. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes lewis almost did actually

    i think and him and benny were good with hands for sure,

    chuck could have good too,
    dennis alexio seemed very loose too
     
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  4. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    IMO none of them, since if they wanted to do boxing they would have trained boxing....

    It's not like someone put a gun on there head while they were training Kickboxing...
     
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  5. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    actually all of them trained boxing
    and a few competed in it too
     
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  6. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    So if some did, and if some even competed in Boxing, why are you asking the question ?
     
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  7. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i am asking the question as a point of interest,

    like which one had the most talent to be a boxer,

    just like you can ask which boxer would be best suited for k1 etc,
    or which wrestler would be best suited to adcc etc

    its a question of interest,
    how a guy from a related sport would do with proper training
     
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  8. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    Yeah...

    I guess I'm the problem here, I must be tired of all those thread asking how X fighter from K-1 or X fighter from MT or X fighter from MMA would have done if he had decided to limite is skillset with hand combat only....
     
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  9. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    your not the problem
    but the thing is
    american kickboxing had a 6 kick a round rule-no low kicks
    because to be honest their kicks werent that great usually
    so they relied on hands most of the time....

    this is not like saying from muay thai, where
    they spend a lot of time on knees and elbows and clinch too,
    so its a bit of different question


    and boxing is more then hand combat,
    there is angles,footwork etc etc
     
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  10. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0vXTpYqd2k[/ame]
     
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  11. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thanks
    how could i forget to put him in

    great fighter
    had a draw with the don the dragon
    in an amazing fight


    very good for boxing or k1 if he improved low kicks etc
     
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  12. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    You missed one of the best - Troy Dorsey. Won legit world titles in both sports back when it meant something. :deal


    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Dorsey[/ame]
     
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  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Kickboxers switching over to boxing is nothing new. several amateur kickboxers have found great success in boxing. Most notably of course is Vitali Klitschko, then you also have guys like Marco Huck, Povetkin, and I think even Manual Charr had a kickboxing background.

    I think plenty of current and past k-1 Heavys would make good or decent Kickboxers. Matt Skelton fought in k-1 and made his name there before switching over to boxing. Kyotaro is 5-0 and is rated as the 106 best HW by boxrec. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=594388&cat=boxer

    Jerome Le banner flirted with a boxing career on the side. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=39471&cat=boxer going 6-0 5(KOs)

    Of course Alexander Ustinov was a k-1 guy for many years before he switched over to pro-boxing.

    In addition to those guys, Mighty Mo, Mark Hunt, Peter Graham and Ray Sefo have also fought in professional bouts a few times.

    Badr Hari was planning to make the full time switch to boxing, he even moved to NY and would took the train to Philly so he could train with Naazim Richardson. Then he decided to stay in kickboxing, and then he started to get into serious trouble with the law again.
     
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  14. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeIj74WWydY[/ame]

    Had to add this. Awesome fight.
     
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  15. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i actually know all of this, but i was specifically talking about those guys from that style of kickboxing, not so much from k-1 style
     
    highguard, Oct 8, 2012
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