Which of these three has the weakest resume: MOSLEY, MAYWEATHER, CALZAGHE?

I think Mayweather's resume is definitely stonger than Calzaghe's, but I think you're way over-the-top here.

For me, Calzaghe's win over Hopkins is clearly better than Mayweather's win over De La Hoya (contrast Hopkins's performance v Pavlik to De La Hoya's performance v Berto, Hopkins clearly has more left than Oscar, and is/was a better fighter anyway). It is worth noting that I thought both Mayweather and Calzaghe were pretty poor in these two fights.

Mayweather's performance against Corrales is more impressive than any performance of Calzaghe's (please no Calzaghe fans ruin my life by mentioning Lacy - Mayweather floored the world p4p#5 four or five times and stopped him, a significantly better display than a points win over Jeff Lacy), but I don't think a win over Corrales is necessarily any better than Calzaghe's win over Kessler. Corrales is not a greater fighter p4p than Kessler IMO.

Mayweather's second win over Castillo beats Calzaghe's win over Kessler, as Castillo was a more proven top fighter than Kessler, but I won't count Mayweather's first "win" over Castillo in this as I thought he lost clearly.

Sorry, but Mayweather's destruction of Gatti was not as good as Calzaghe's win over Lacy. That one really does not require explanation surely.

Mayweather's KO of Hatton is better than everything on Calzaghe's resume except Hopkins. Fair enough Mayweather performed better, but Hopkins is a far more difficult opponent than Hatton, and a hundred times more difficult than Hatton at welterweight (anyone remember Hatton-Collazo?).

Mayweather does indeed have many better wins than Joe beating Roy Jones as that was a sham fight and a worthless win. Calzaghe's own wins over Byron Mitchell, Lacy, and even Eubank (which is surely the most overrated win in recent boxing history) are better than slapping around the corpse of Roy Jones with a stupid grin on your face.


I agree Mayweather's resume is better than Calzaghe's and Mosley's, but it's not by as wide a margin as you make out IMO.

 

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Excellent post. I think Mayweather's is a good bit better, I mean its not close, but at the same time its not so far in the distance that Mayweather fans can afford to mock others resume and plenty seem to do so.

Mayweather's resume is good, but he could have done much much more, and he got the hell out of there just when he had the opportunity to really bolster it.

 

The truth is that if the fight had taken place at 140, Mayweather would have won convincingly anyway, but it would have been closer. IMO, Hatton not coping with 147 is a legitimate excuse.

 

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Imagine Mayweather had fought Tszyu at 140, and Williams and Margarito at 147 before he retired. I mean, we could conceivably be talking all-time top 25. As it is, I think he's lucky to sneak in below 40.

 

I think Mayweather would've stopped him no matter who had been the ref that night tbh. He wore Ricky down by beating him at his own game, the pace and the punches were taking a toll on Ricky and the additional weight was a factor there. If Floyd hadn't landed the shot that sent Ricky into the ringpost there, he would've stopped him anyway before the final bell, Mayweather knew Ricky was in trouble and was starting to increase the purpose of his punching.

At 140 Ricky was stronger and more comfortable, I don't envisage a stoppage down there. I agree with your assessment of their fight at 140.

 

Sorry, but that's very reductive. What's the point of it when instead you can just look at the entire career resume, ie the whole story/picture?