Which of these three has the weakest resume: MOSLEY, MAYWEATHER, CALZAGHE?

They might be voting on weakest resume of WINS, not weakest resume of opposition overall.

Mosley's fights with Forrest, Wright, and Cotto can put him at the top in terms of whom he faced, but he lost all those bouts.

 

Mosley has the weakest resume IMO. With Mayweather having the best of the three.

All 3 are great fighters though.

 

No, most of the fighters I listed weren't. For all 3 fighters, I listed any fighter they fought who had held any (WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO) world title under "champs".

 

I respectfully disagree. I am basing the resume on the fighers they have BEATEN not the ones they have fought, hence Forrest Mosley and Cotto fights do not affect it. IMHO though Mosley has the big wins over DLH it is quite a gap to his next biggest win (Vargas? Mayorga? Holiday? Molina?)

 

very good post, but I wouldn't put Carlos Hernandez and Mikkel Kessler as elite fighters. Also, Sugar Shane was competitive with a prime Winky and a prime Forrest. The Hopkins that Joe fought still competed at a high level but with 43 yr old stamina that Jermain Taylor revealed. Pavlik gained 10 pounds and found a stylistic nightmare. Hopkins in his prime would be hard to outwork (i.e. a win over Glen Johnson in his prime). Anyhow, very good post

 

I hear u...I actually like SSM over Joe and PBF because he fought the best of his era within two weight classes that he really isn't naturally in (147 & 154). A prime Forrest and a prime Winky. Oh, and Oscar DLH. Also, Miguel Cotto. He was very competitive in all major battles. He fought the young undefeated lion in Cotto. That's like Joe fighting Chad Dawson today. Also, it's like Floyd Mayeather Jr. tested himself against Antonio Margarito. Sugar Shane is from the old school. He's a class act and a str8 souljah from Southern Cali. Nothing but respect for SSM.

 

BTW, I don't judge trinket baby sitters as much as I judge quality opposition.

 

Cheers. It was actually Genaro Hernandez I was refering to not Carlos. It's maybe a contentious call with him being elite but his only previous loss ever was to ODLH at lightweight and he had beaten a lot of good fighters including the great Azumah Nelson, getting on though he was. I tend to think of elite fighters as being demonstrably superior to your run of the mill world champion (what a contradiction that sentence looks - sign of the times I guess). Hence why I have included him and Kessler, who has demolished decent champs like Siaca, Mundine and Beyer.

I realise how competitive Mosley was with Forrest and Winky, however, I am judging resume solely on the fighters they have beaten and hence not factoring in those fights for this purpose.

 

Uugh.........

Probably not.

Tszyu was, in truth, made for him stylistically - having trouble with pressure fighters etc.

I would suggest that the Hatton of that fight would beat pretty much anyone - but don't forget he was roared on by a massive home crowd and he had been waiting an awful long time for a big fight.

The Hatton of '05 vs Mayweather of '05 would lose a close UD at 140, in Manchester

If the fight was in America, UD 116-112ish

That said, Hatton would have put Gatti away in the first two/three rounds!

 

Questionable but I do think Hatton should have been in the "elite" spot.

 

OK maybe Hatton in as an elite as well then, I was factoring in the fact that Hatton was moving up in weight (and has subsequently gone straight back down again) and had one or two less impressive showings lately. Plus the fact that Corrales at that time was an absolute beast, whilst he had an impressive career at lightweight he never quite reached those heights again.

 

Nope...When you're from WBO you are trash...

You reign at WBO to gain a foothold at the elite fields...

If you reign for more than a year or two, it means something about yourself...

Maybe now that WBO is a little bit acknowledged you can find status but prior to that, a reign at WBO is purely fighting bums...

 

Yeah. I agree. I also like the Sugar way more than Joe and PBF.

 

None of these fighters resume match their talents, but Id have to go with Mosley as the weakest of the three, calzaghe next.