Which of these two issues is more of a problem, Alphabet titles or GBP/TR issues?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by cuchulain, Oct 14, 2013.


  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Issue 1.

    We have at least four major sanctioning bodies and 17 weight classes resulting in 68 boxing champions (more if you count ordinary, super, emeritus, interim, etc) and 68 sets of rankings. (More if you throw in RING, ESPN and TBRs.)

    This is all a bit vexing.




    Issue 2.

    We have Major Promoters who won't (usually) let their fighters meet. GBP and TR have been instrumental in preventing the Pac/Floyd fight happeneing when it mattered. They will likely prevent Bradley/ Floyd, for similar reasons.

    And there are many other fights that have been prevented or will be prevented on this account.


    Which of 1 or 2 is the bigger problem ?

    For me, it's probably 2.

    I can judge for myself who is the best at the various weights and I lean heavily towards TBR as being the most credible ranking outfit.

    But I can't watch all the fights I would like to on account of issue 2.



    Thoughts ?

    Solutions ?
     
  2. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Issue 1 you can just ignore.

    Issue 2 you cannot.
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    1 is bad for the purist and old school fans but in reality there have been multiple titles for a while now and historically there have always been bickering over recognition and lineages so 1 is ok.

    1 is getting worse due to the proliferation of stocking stuffer belts and freebie life time achievement awards

    Morales vs Cano as a title fight is one example, I dont recognize Morales as a 140 pound Champion that was a gift belt thanking him for all his years of excitement

    Sakio Bika was basically given a belt as a lifetime achievement award

    Guerrero parades around as a 6 time champ when he is really a 2 time champ he counts interims

    2. is bad because it prevents divisional clarity like at 147 where Mayweather and Bradley are the 2 top dogs at the weight and cant fight due to TV and promoter bull crap

    and superfights like Pac vs May didnt happen but there might be more to it than just promotional bickering as 4-5 yrs of threads show 100's if not 1000's of possible reasons why they didnt fight

    on one hand however to play devils advocate these promotional squabbles do generate competition and look at the cards hbo and sho are putting on at the end of this yr, all star line ups as both promoters are putting out their best to beat out the others


    to deviate from the OP the biggest problem in boxing now is coverage and availability

    you can site the belts, the weights, the bad decisions, the boring fights but at the end of the day those things have existed since the beginning of boxing

    ducking and corruption and promoters and business aspects have screwed fighters and fans for decades

    the biggest issues with boxing is that it isnt on free TV enough it is barely covered on sports center or in major publications like SI and really isnt in major news like it used to be

    if boxing was on say your regular NBC or ABC like it used to be on a frequent basis fighters would be more familiar, boxing would be more of a mainstay staple
     
  4. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    :good
     
  5. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Top Rank/GBP issue is a much bigger problem. By not working together we are missing out on a lot of good to great fights.

    There are ways to work around the sanctioning bodies to make good fights but there isn't, as of right now, a way to work around the GBP/Top Rank problem.
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    they are both problems that will never be fixed. boxing has basically made a joke of itself with the amount of belts and promoters who wont deal with one another over greed