Which one was the greatest victory of Ali?

Nothing wrong with Ali outside the ring.

 

Ali was past his prime, had slowed down, and overall diminished, especially his footwork, which he severely depended on. Yet devised and used mental tactics to beat a young, undefeated, and perhaps his most dangerous opponent in Foreman. Foreman, for his part, still went on to become a legend, but was never the same.

 

Look into it for yourself. He believed blacks should stay with blacks and whites with whites, and that both races are very different and mixing it all up benefits nobody.

 

ali vs the draft.

 

That **** never gets old.

 

I remember when the south had anti-miscegenation laws. Wonder if they still do.

 

In Virginia v Loving, the Supreme Court held those laws unconstitutional.

 

huge heart + granite jaw + stupid strategies = parkinson.

He said it was worth it, I dont believe him.

His most meaningful victory imho was foreman.

 

He was a big piece of **** outside the ring.

 

Ali vs Frazier was quite possibly the most brutal Heavyweight title encounter ever, and was the rubber match in what was essentially for "The Heavyweight Championship of Each Other." Frazier was considered by many (including Ali) to be finished, and Ali had also slowed since the first fight with Frazier, so they were each in a position to land on one another significantly more than in the first two fights. Add to that Frazier's intense hatred of Ali and the searing temperature at ringside -- estimated to be around the 120 Farenheit mark due to the combination of the heat and the use of lighting for the television broadcasts -- and these factors combined for a savage, attritional and grotesquely entralling showdown in which neither man gave an inch, and after which neither man was ever the same: this fight truly finished Frazier, and violently stripped away what remained of Ali's prime.

Also, the people who think Frazier would've stopped Ali had the fight gone to the 15th need to consider what happened in the 14. By the 13th, Ali had found his second wind and came on strong, while one of Frazier's eye's was completely closed and his other eye closing fast. Frazier was still pressing forward in the 14th, was still throwing and occasionally landing, but his punches appeared to have no power on them, and was taking several flush shots from Ali in the second half of the round:

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My own assumption is that Ali collapsed due to a combination of exhaustion and relief upon seeing and hearing that Frazier had been pulled out and, had Frazier been allowed out for the 15th by Futch and Benton, Ali would have dug deep and found that little extra, willed himself forward, and gone straight for the stoppage.

Upon pulling Joe Frazier out, Eddie Futch said to him, "No one will forget what you did here today".

He was right.

 

The reasoning for Ali coming out and saying he was on favour of racial segregation in 1964 and 1965 and onward up until the time of Elijah Muhammad's death was that, as a de facto spokesman for the Nation of Islam, he was merely regurgitating the doctrines and the viewpoints of Elijah Muhammad: he was talking about the need for racial segregation and about all White people being devils, but never truly believed those things to be doctrinally correct. So much so, that when Elijah Muhammad died in February 1975, his son Wallace Muhammad was elected as leader of the Nation of Islam, and Wallace Muhammad worked closely with Muhammad Ali and other high-ranking officials within the organisation to completely overhaul and reconstruct the doctrine of the Nation of Islam, and to publicly and privately shun Elijah Muhammad's more inflammatory teachings -- including the pro-racial segregation stance and the belief that all White people are devils -- in favour of a more moderate and tolerant form of Islam similar to that of Sunni.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam

At around this time, Muhammad Ali himself renounced Elijah Muhammad's extreme teachings and version of Islam, and recanted of them -- including his previously issued statements that racial segregation was necessary and previously issued statements of the belief that all White people are devils -- and converted to Sunni Islam. With this more tolerant doctrine and reflective attitude, Muhammad Ali would instead insist that "Hating people because of their color is wrong. And it doesn't matter which color does the hating. It's just plain wrong."

 

Voted Foreman. Big George's scalp was the cherry on Ali's exemplary resume cake.

I was unaware of this incident until a couple of weeks ago I saw a short dramatisation on skyArts. The man was a character.

 

Foreman, then both Fraziers, then Liston...

 

Not to me and millions of others.

 

Thanks, but actually I already knew that. I just suspected that the poster didn't know and was putting out his little knowledge of Ali's statements as a negative on Ali himself. It's said that a little knowledge is dangerous in the hands of an uninformed person. I just threw a baited hook out there and he had no answer because he didn't know the whole story.