Which other ATGs would beat the version of Ali that Frazier beat?

1.Norton would have always given Ali trouble, but its 50/50 as to weather he'd beat Ali in 1971.

2.Holmes anytime between 1978-1981 would have been a very formidable test for a 1971 Ali, but again its 50/50.

3.A peak Mike Tyson ( pre-Douglas, for those who are going to jump all over that fight like flies on hoarse manure ) could have given a FOTC Ali some trouble as well.

There are probably a few others, but at this point none come to mind. Ali in my opinion was at his all time peak around 1967, but was still very formidable in 1971, therefore I wouldn't pick too many fighters to beat that version either.

 

I'd like to throw a peak Evander Holyfield into the mix...
Evander is one of the only fighter's of recent memory
I can see keeping the pace that Fraizer was able to put Vs. (FOTC) Ali.

+ Evander can throw one hell of a left hook himself. (Awesome in Fighter)
(Would be kinda like a ******* version of the Bowe/Holyfield I fight)

 

Yeah I suppose, a 1989 or 1990 version of Holyfield might have been a hard earned pay day for Ali at any point in his career.

 

I suspect any atg heavy from Sullivan on would have had at least an even chance with FOTC Ali, even including Liston and Foreman.

 

If your talking the Ali of '71 against prime ATG then:
Johnson
Dempsey
Tunney
Louis
Marciano

And just for the Hell of it, Walcott, Charles.

 

A prime Holmes, Holyfield, Dempsey and Lewis would stand a good chance of beating FOTC Ali. Ali would be favored but not by much IMO.

 

Holmes or Lewis would have the best chance.

Holyfield has never looked good against a fighter that moves away from him, prime nor after. Holyfield needed someone to come forward, or at least an opponent that stands his ground, to look good.

 

I think Lennox Lewis under Stewart's tutilidge would stand a very good chance, Holmes would be a decent bet too. Whilst Tyson would pose Ali some problems with his movement, power and handspeed I really can't envisage him forcing a stoppage and Ali would win enough rounds to sway the decision towards him.

 

Frazier won by relentless pressure and body attack.

Dempsey, Louis, Marciano could have beat Ali that night, but not championship Ali.

 

I exaggerated. A little.

 

Well I'm drunk,,but in answer to your question ,very f*****g few.

 

You're giving Frazier a lot of credit with a great win then.




Drunk people always say what they really think.

 

Hello Chris ,yes I give Frazier , all the credit in the world. I think, on that night, in MSG,there would be very ,very ,few men that would have beaten Joe Frazier ,in fact possibly none,he was a man possessed,immovable and undentable.As Ali said of him "whatever the price ,he will pay it".In contrast, he thought Foreman was wary of taking sustained punishment .Joe left a lot of himself in that ring,Ali too,we were the lucky ones who saw it,two undefeated Champs,unprecedented,and a fight that not only lived up to the hype, but surpassed it.No bull **** Frazier was a very great warrior that night.