Which other heavyweights in history could have taken the shots Ali took in the Shavers fight?

Exhibit A, Shavers couldn't put away a shot Ali.

Exhibit B, what Shavers did to a prime Holmes.

I can't help but find A impressive!

 

I think the better question is which champions would have been in the position to take the punishment Ali took?

I’m Not trying to degrade Ali here, his ability to absorb punishment was second to none, but the fact he was even in a position to take this kind of punishment speaks volumes to how much he had deteriorated as a fighter at this point in his career.

 

In his book Box Like the Pros he says the exact same thing about the jab, of course, so do many boxers and old-time martial artists. And just punching on the bag myself I can know that the jab must lead all combinations.

 

Chuvalo,Foreman,Cobb,Tillis,McCall,Marciano,Klitchko,Baer....

 

Really?

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Stop selling yourself short.

You are faster and also punch harder than Earnie Shavers. This shouldn’t be in dispute.

The measuring device of fighters like Ali and Holmes (and Cobb, Tillis, Quarry) saying that Shavers was the hardest hitter they fought means nothing against your tinpot baseless opinion.

 

And you know that cause ?!
As I've already mentioned, I've seen amateurs that have the power to floor both Ali and Holmes, if they put their bodyweight behind the punch like Shavers did, the problem is they wouldn't be able to land.

 

Chuvalo and McCall come to mind

 

Come on this is kind of getting silly now. How does someone who is faster and hits harder than Shavers have a best result of 3rd in some 16 year old local amateur comp? Your fundamentals must be atrocious if you had those physical advantages at 16 and couldn't even win a local age group comp?

 

There's more to winning than just speed and power. Look at Wilder.
I was a kid back then and some amateurs were way more skilled than me.
Plus the head gear makes a huge difference.

 

I'm well aware there's more to it than that which means you must have been pretty darn unskilled. Look I'm not buying it that you potentially hit harder than Shavers, that's an absurd claim.