Which other heavyweights in history could have taken the shots Ali took in the Shavers fight?

Don't bother, this guy believes that he would beat HW champions. He's just a troll.

 

Like a high school basketball player who spent most of his time on the bench thinking he could beat Hondo in his prime one on one I suppose lol.

 

As I've already pointed out, punching power is determined by speed and mass. So if you take a bigger guy than Shavers, which has similar speed and technique, he will punch harder. It's basic physics.
As for my skill, it was decent enough, but some were just much better, they were boxing since they were 5 or 6 years old. They simply had the ability to outpoint you.

 

Walter, do you really think local amateur junior competition is compariable to the competition level of world title champions?

 

If yoi really think that punching power is all about Newton laws, then you are delusional. Physics student tells you that

 

Vitali
McCall
Holyfield

All possessed A* jaws and would be as durable AF in any era

 

No, I don't think that's comparable, but I was just explaining why I didn't do better back then.
Plus what has that got to do with the level I am at now ?!

 

Most heavies didn't fight small men and bums, that's why they don't have Shavers KO percentage.
To further elaborate on that, if guys like Wlad, Lewis, Tyson etc would have faced the exact same opposition as Shavers, they would have probably KO'd everyone.
Frazier did not land power punches on Ali as Shavers did.
As for the most powerful HW, are you talking in terms of punching power or in terms of raw power, as in being able to outmuscle people ?

 

It is about physics.

 

What do you know about physics?

 

More than enough. They invented weight classes for a reason.

 

Then you should know that throwing a punch is not the same as shooting a bullet. You need to time your opponent well, you have to land cleanly, you have to use proper technique.

Technically, you are right - force is simply a mass×velocity. The problem is that it doesn't mean the same as "puncher's mass×hand velocity". There are way too many variables in real boxing match to use such a simple reasoning. When you throw a punch to a static bag, you can use that reasoning but not when you're fighting against a moving target who also attacks you.

You'd know that physics are not that easy if you've ever have any experience with physics experiments.

 

it depends really if you think being able to take those shots are the difference between becoming champion or not?

if the answer is yes, then I think a lot of champions would have stopped Ernie before having to take those kinds of shots.

Ernie was had a tremendous wallop on him, but he was not necessarily great enough to compete with better champions at their best.

Ali himself was pretty near the end. Maybe that’s the only reason he was able to tag Ali like that?

I suspect most champions beat Ernie before he can tag them like he tagged Ali.

Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Marciano, Louis, Dempsey, Tunney, Johnson, Jeffies, Ingo, Schmeling, Baer, Sharkey, Tyson all beat Ernie.

he has a chance with Leon, Primo, Braddock And Shannon Briggs though. But o wouldn’t necessarily bet on Shavers.