Which out of these is more significant

i would say pavliks win over taylor

 

Pavlik over Taylor.

 

Gotta go with Pavlik over Taylor.

 

How?

Taylor is a lesser fighter than Kessler and arguably Adamek.

 

Pavlik over Taylor

 

How is Taylor possibly a lesser fighter than Kessler and Adamek?

Explain.

 

Even though Taylor is a much lesser fighter? Or do belts matter more?

:yep

If belts mattered more than Calzaghe's win STILL trumps Pavlik's as he became the first undisputed in the weight class, rather than just becoming undisputed off of a flawed MW fraud.

 

Taylor is not as skilled as Kessler, by a good margin. Doesn't have Kessler's defence, footwork, timing, sense of distance, power & great stamina OR workrate.

Case closed, Kessler is a MUCH better fighter in every area except for handspeed in combinations, but he surely is faster at delivering a timed counter.

Adamek, on the other hand can be argued as a better 'all around effective' fighter as he doesn't mentally collapse and is there until the end. I'd certainly pick a MW version Adamek over Taylor.

Or are we just blind and don't actually watch fights?:yep

 

Pavlik win against Taylor, why? Well Taylor had fought Winky, Spinks and of course Bernard Hopkins, people weren't happy with the results, can't blame then. He was the next big thing and then .............. KO lost against Pavlik who was another good fighter coming up in ranks.

JC vs Kessler was a great fight, great win for JC, but that didn't brought new things in JC's career, he was already great and Kessler's great also.

The thing is that the win of Pavlik against Taylor vanished Jermain of the P4P list and Kelly got tons of new fans, no doubt. So that is why I pick Pavlik's win.

 

Kessler's a good fighter, but you cant say hes better than Taylor since Taylor has much better wins than Kessler does at this point of his career. He beat a guy twice that was the longest reigning middleweight champ of all time, and drew with another that was top 5 pound for pound at the time, then followed it up with wins over Ouma and Cory Spinks.

We're not blind here, we just pay attention to the facts and not personal bias's:yep .

 

Yeah and the win was a very disputed one on a guy well past his prime. Kessler would have dominated and destroyed the Hopkins of today, just like Joe is going to do in a 1 sided shutout.

Why even count Ouma and Spinks, what is quality about either of those guys at Middleweight?

Kessler had only lost 4-6 rounds in 39 fights against ranked, solid competition, including a dominate win over a fighter that's superior to anyone at MW in Anthony Mundine. His credentials there are already better than Taylor's are overall and we can watch video of the fighters and see who is superior and who is not.

Everything I outlined is factual, Taylor doesn't have Kessler's skill, timing, defence, poise & intelligence, he's a MUCH lesser fighter and if they fought, Taylor would be wiped out faster than he was vs. Pavlik and have zero success against him.

No bias, just educated analysis.