Which out of these is more significant

Well, I disagree. Wright's not been the same guy he was at 154 as he was at 160 and Taylor got a lucky draw at that. Wright's struggle with Sam Soliman and minor issue with a shot Quartey highlight this perfectly.

Out of Kessler's competition, I see several of them defeating Taylor or giving him hell.

I see nobody Taylor fought, at the time he fought them, defeating Kessler or even coming close to it.

Kessler's competition was more varied and he was more dominant, rarely even dropping a round here and there.

It's not even comparable.

And why don't we analyse HOW the fights are won anyway?

Pavlik nearly got taken out, then came back against a fighter who has no poise and no ring intelligence. Calzaghe outclassed Kessler and fought in a variety of styles at that, much more impressive and significant win.

 

I would argue that Calzaghe vs Kessler is way more significant than the other two by default because it meant that the Super Middleweight division was completely unified for the very first time.

 

1. Calzaghe over Kessler
2. Pavlik over Taylor





3.Dawson over Ademek

 

Indeed, he was proven to be more flawed and not of Kessler's calibre in the end. That I agree with.:good

If they fight, expect Taylor to get annihilated fast.

 

Taylor was top 5 or 6 P4P when Pavlik beat him while Kessler was top 15 at best, this is a no brainer.:deal

 

oh shoot wrong vote, pavliks win over taylor.

 

And please inform what a FLAWED ranking system has to do with how good someone is.

I think everyone agree's that Kessler is a much better fighter than Jermain Taylor, not only in skill, but in mental make up and poise.

Pavlik vs. Kessler or Taylor vs. Kessler result in either getting wiped the **** out against Kessler, they are not in the elite fighter class, even though some of you dolts want to believe it.

 

Yeah, but if Adamek was actually as good as Kessler and didn't use his head as primary defence, then I would do so, but that's not the case.

Adamek is a good fighter, but has a horrible defence and lacks the offensive pedigree of Kessler, not in the same league P4P.

 

Amsterdam you are a HATER!!! :deal

 

No he isn't your bias of Taylor knows no bounds. You have little credibility when discussing Taylor. Taylor was ranked top 5 P4P in the world and the 160 pound champ. No way on hell was Dawson's or Calzaghe's wins more significant than Pavliks. In fact to even suggest that Taylor was a lesser fighter than Adamek tells me you're irrational on this subject.

 

He fought no P4P ranked fighters, which again has nothing to do with anything involving H2H ability and rating a fighter, so long as the competition is varied and the performances were high.

Winky and Hopkins, well, first of all, Hopkins past 40 is nothing special in the grand scheme of things and would get crushed vs. any young champion with any skill and poise, as seen from his struggles with Taylor.

Wright, totally ineffective above 154, yet Taylor still couldn't beat him.

If either fought Kessler in the same state they fought Taylor in, they'd both lose badly, I assure you this. Hopkins couldn't even get past Taylor's jab and was wary of his counter right, just imagine that now with Kessler's precision and accuracy.

Give me a break, open your ****ing eyes to what you are watching and learn how to rate fighters.

Your boy Taylor is utter trash.

 

Exactly especially since Hopkins would be the favorite over Kessler if the two ever met. Winky would give Kessler a good fight as well.

 

The difference is that Adamek actually beat young top level fighters at LHW either cleanly, or impressively, but then loss very wide to an ELITE fighter in Chad Dawson.

Now he's jumped to cruiser and may have some success there.

Taylor on the other hand gets gift wins, then he struggles with B level fighters that are so outsized that it's sickening. He was proven to be flawed and anybody even watching his flawed technique early on could have picked out these flaws before Pavlik KTFO Taylor and Hopkins and Wright made him look like ****.

Thus, the science of analysing fighters and picking fights.:nut