Which over the hill, shot, past prime fighters are still fighting for legacy

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Del Boy, Jun 9, 2010.


  1. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Someone who is financially secure but still fights on for legacy

    Roy jones jnr
    Hopkins
    Toney

    Any others?
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Hopkins is financially secure. I don't know about Roy and Toney though. Mosley is as well.
     
  3. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko ???
     
  4. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this the only answer! the older bros could fight until he is 60 because the division is so shitty!

    RJJ is ruining his legacy
    toney and Bhop just love to fight and are starting to ruin their rep!
     
  5. wildboar9

    wildboar9 New Member Full Member

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    Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Take Toney out of the list immediately. The guy has been nothing but a clown since moving up to the heavyweight division and is fighting in MMA next as far as I know.

    Jones Jr.
    Hopkins
    Morales
    Mosley
    V.Klitschko
    Glen Johnson
    Joel Casamayor
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Barrera
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    'Financially secure' is the kicker.

    Plenty of over the hill, shot, past prime fighters still aiming for glory because they need the money, plain and simple.
     
  8. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I don't think either are fighting for legacy...they are still fighting because thats all they know, same with Holyfield. Jones Jr is wrecking his legacy, especially if he carries on still...normally I would think a boxer with his achievements had a secure legacy. But the difference in the guy in his prime to now is dramatic...and all these kids growing up watching this shadow of Jones Jr. Well thats the last thing he is going to be remembered for...being absolutely out of this world in his prime...but also an old man who couldn't retire.
     
  9. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    the more they fight the more they are hurting their legacy... just like roy jones.
     
  10. wildboar9

    wildboar9 New Member Full Member

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    I agree with you, but both Erik Morles and Marco Antonio Barrera want to be the first mexican to be a world champion in four different weight classes.

    I believe they are both shot and should just retire with their heads held hight. They both had HOF careers, nothing left to prove.
     
  11. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    It's too close to call whether Toney & Hopkins are shot but they are obviously past their prime. As far as ruining legacies, I believe that's impossible. For example, yeah RJJ lost to Danny Green of all people but that doesn't get rid of his victories against Toney & Hopkins & Tarver. No way a fighter ruins their legacy(unless they take banned substances or use weapons, that brings about a cloud of suspicion). They can ruin their image to the eyes of fans but never their legacies. Wildboar9 said MAB & Erik so I'm going with that too.
     
  12. Englund

    Englund Warrior Full Member

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    If Roy retired at 48-1 after he beat Ruiz, then nobody would have questioned his chin, he would have been considered easily top 10 ATG, and nobody would have questioned his ability to beat Tarver, Green, Johnson, and anyone else he lost to.

    Now, since he's continued fighting and been beaten badly on occasions, people now mix those fights in with his glory days. It shouldn't diminish a fighter's legacy, but sadly it does.
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Personally, I think he should've retired after the first fight with Tarver because it was a fight that truly showed his heart. If he retired before fighting Tarver the first time, many would question whether he's been tested or not. Im a Roy fan but his opposition in his prime wasn't as weak as people say it was, he just made them look like it he was beating good guys some of the times. I agree it shouldn't affect his legacy but time heals wounds, wait for years to go by and people should forget his losses to Glenn, Tarverx2, and Green.