Which performance was worse: Peter or Pavlik's?

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  1. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Peter because he stayed on the stool...

    I'm the last one to say quitter - I give every damn athlete respect. But that made the difference. Pavlik never stopped trying just simply couldn't do anything. Peter tried and tried and at one point said: what's the point of keeping this up?

    Pavlik will never quit.
     
  3. DAGOBOY

    DAGOBOY Active Member Full Member

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  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Definately Peter. Pavlik at least kept fighting. He was outgunned out there, but he never gave up. Peter straight up quit. I can't respect that.
     
  5. skier47

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    Both were dreadful but Peter quit in his corner and Kelly manned up and stayed the course like Jeff Lacy. Peter also fought a man who was off four years with terrible injuries requiring multiple surgeries to repair. Pavlik fought a
    focused, superbly conditioned albeit old ATG in Hopkins. Both are losers but Peter is the bigger loser and has less potential to rebound from his beatdown than Kelly IMO.
     
  6. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One Quit and one Fought on - this is a no brainer.
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Pavlik,he was the favorite in the fight..but on the other hand Vitali was coming off a 4 year layoff.Not sure
     
  8. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just to play devil's advocate for a moment here we should definitely take into account that Peter was the underdog and physically a lot smaller than Vitali plus looked bad against McCline. Pavlik was a considerable favorite and physically larger in the ring and has looked unstoppable in recent fights taking on someone 17 years older.
     
  9. Dudemeister

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    The worse performance was Peter but Pavlik was the more shocking one, the bigger upset...in another thread someone said Peter took a beating but pavlik got schooled, that summs it up pretty good.
    The fact that Peter took the easy way out just makes it worse...
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    Peter's was worse.

    Pavlik kept trying and lasted the distance, and Vitali is no B-Hop.

    43 year old B-Hop is much better than Vitali ever was, let alone a 37 year old Vitali who hadn't fought in 4 years.

    Peter still got humiliated by this Vitali coming off much inactivity.
     
  11. tays001

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  12. RDJ

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    Peter's was much, much worse. I don't think Pavlik took a career ending beating, Peter may have.
     
  13. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Peter, by a wide margin.

    * Wasn't moving up in weight
    * Champion vs challenger (or 'champ emeritus')
    * Gave up
    * Quit without even going down once

    Pavlik gave everything he had and actually won one round in the fight. Peter was skunked and just mailed it in after 8 rounds. Not the way you want to lose your belt.
     
  14. blank

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    People are making too big a deal out of Peter and Pavlik under performing, while not giving enough respect to the phenomenal performances by Vitali and Hopkins. I badly wanted Peter to beat Klitschko, but Vitali stepped right up to him and beat his ass (badly) in the very first round, taking the fight to (and away from) Peter from the opening bell. Same with Hopkins to Pavlik. I seriously believe both Peter and Pavlik showed up looking to win, and had their weapons taken away from them and beaten soundly by more intelligent fighters. People aren't realizing that Pavlik looked so bad because Hopkins had a masterful performance. Hopkins fighting so well while Pavlik fighting so poorly were not coincidences, they were direct responses to one another.
     
  15. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good