Which punching power better: Vitalys or Lewis'?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In terms of accomplishments Lewis smashed up much beter competition than Vitaly.
    He TKO/KO Ruddock, Bruno, Morrison, Golota, Tyson, Grant, Briggs, Botha, Rahman, and .....
    cut Vitaly. His record is 41-2-0 (32 KO).

    Vitaly TKO/KO: Hidie, Bean, Norris, Johnson, Sanders, Williams, Donald.
    He don't have monsters like Tyson (who bdw was way past his best
    when he fought Lewis) on the list but his recod is highly impressive 35-2-0 (34KO).

    So which punching power was bigger?
     
  2. Fat Tony

    Fat Tony Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis, no doubt.

    The better question would be: Wlad or Lennox?
    I don't know this answer.
     
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  4. Shaun Spensley

    Shaun Spensley New Member Full Member

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    i got vitali as a harder puncher me.. i think so. just casue lennox knockout better fighters dosnt mean **** really. lennox was a better fight with a **** hard punch.. vitali was not as good but with a harder punch.
     
  5. Stimulant

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    Vitali hits harder.. Lennox has better technique so he can land better.. but Vitali definately hits harder.. though Lennox's shots would be seen as more effective.
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this is a decent question, although like many have said, Vitali tends to arm punch more than Lewis. That said, his KO % is 90+%, isn't it. It might be the highest in HW history, or I think I heard it was once.

    I think Lewis hits harder, just on an 'average thrown punch' power rating. If they both got their legs into it, not sure. Lennox's legs seem a little bigger (which is where most of the power comes from), but Vitali was a kickboxer, so I doubt he has weak legs.

    I will say this: Because of Vitali's iron chin (never knocked down in the pros), he is much more aggressive than Lennox. That's why I think his KO % is higher. Not because Vitali throws harder. Vitali just hunts and destroys, but Lewis had to be a bit more careful (see Holyfield fights, as an example). Even against the lightning-quick and southpaw Sanders, Vitali just totally stalked him. Same as he did with Lewis.

    But I do think, on average at least, Lewis hits harder.
     
  7. bhwbj

    bhwbj Member Full Member

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    Lewis has more force behind his big punches. IMO Lewis is clearly the harder puncher.
     
  8. dwilson

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    I think Vitali had an amazing punch but what made Lewis was his ability to put it on someone in the right place.
     
  9. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Some people seriously think Vitali hit harder than this :huh

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  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know, looking at the video (I never get tired of seeing Rahman and Grant destroyed), 3 things stand out:

    1. Lewis' hands are much faster than Vitali's. And force =
    mass X acceleration (f=ma). Vitali and Lennox are about
    the same weight, so if Lennox throws a lot faster
    (which he does), he will, therefore, hit harder. Makes
    sense.

    2. Lennox gets much better hip swivel (power transfer) on
    his punches than Vitali. He just incredibly loads up on
    some of his shots, which means tons more power. Vitali
    doesn't do that.

    3. I still can't believe that Lennox couldn't hurt Vitali. You
    look at that 'best shot of the fight' uppercut - a punch he
    put a lot into, and all it did was stiffen Vitali's legs for a
    quick moment. Less than a minute later, Vitali was once
    again battering Lewis around the ring. No wonder Lewis
    retired rather than rematch him. Lennox had to be
    thinking something like:

    "This guy's eye is totally torn up, he's bloody all over himself from his cut - which is the only time, before or since, that he's ever been cut in his pro boxing career, so you'd think he'd be a bit nervous/shaken up/off-his-game about it - and I still can't hurt him, even though he can't even see out of his eye to dodge my punches! What the f*ck do I have to do to this guy to stop him from coming forward and continually drilling me and hurting me badly?!? Oh, and by the way, this guy has wanted to kick my ass for years, and has been training (in general, he took this particular fight against me on very short notice but has wanted to fight me for forever) to challenge me, specifically, for years and clearly isn't going to stop in this or any other bout with me until he puts his fist through my chest like a Mortal Kombat 'fatality.' Screw this! I'm going to try to pick at his eye and rub my dreads in it and hopefully the ring doc will rescure my tapped-out butt. Lord, if you let me win this fight even though I'm: a) going to plop-down on my stool after this round like I'm completely shot, b) I'm trailing on all the scorecards, and c) I let everything I have left hang out and he had me hanging on at the end of the round, I SWEAR I'll never fight again. Please, Lord! If you let me win, I will recognize your sign that I have - just this once - won the 'cut lottery.' What's that? You say if you do let me win, I have to act like a bizitch in the post-fight interview with Merchant, grab the mic out of his hand and dodge all of his legitimate questions? Deal, Lord, deal. Helllllllllllp!!!!"

    - - -

    That was probably the scariest night of Lennox's career.
    I've done a lot of sparring, and nothing is worse than the
    guy you can't hurt or discourage. That just totally takes
    your will away. If the doc doesn't stop that fight, Vitali
    would have left Lennox like Rahman did in their first fight.
    Vitali was on a mission, and Lewis wisely walked away from
    the fight game.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Early in his career, Vitlai hit harder than Wlad. However a back, knee, and shoulder injury took some snap off of Vitlai’s punching. I think Lewis hits a bit harder, though Vitali is a bit more active and aggressive in the ring, which is why he could stop fighters late, and Lewis never scored a TKO past round 8.
     
  12. Dekkers

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    :lol: Paul I think Lewis took the last two rounds against Vitali, that said i think the fact Vitali hadn't been in with a puncher as hard as Lennox in his career (aside from Hide, but Herbie only got in a few good shots in the first) is more the reason he'd never been cut before, Lewis opened up a few cuts on Vitali.

    That said Lewis did the smart thing, he looked like **** but still managed to squeak out the win. He's lucky he was fighting Vitali though, guy is terribly overrated because of this fight, the same Lennox wouldn't have beaten Ibeabuchi or Wlad (punchers chance against Wlad, but frankly he was very flat and his reflexes were crap that night).
     
  13. blistering

    blistering New Member Full Member

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    Lennox hits way harder than Vitali when talking about average punch power.

    Vitali would have KO'd Lewis otherwise when they fought and he landed several flush right hands that didn't really even seriously wobble Lewis.

    Lewis by the end of the fight was walking through whatever Vitali thew.

    Vitali though is good with wearing down opponents leading to TKOs and KOs - with accumulation of punches rather than single shot power.
     
  14. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lewis hurt vitali he was holding on for dear life after that uppercut
     
  15. Bummy Davis

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    Lewis was the harder hitter early in the fight,because of his Ko's over Botha, Golota and Grant (not to say Vitali could not have matched the feat) although Vitali blasted out Kirk and a few early but Vitali had the late power also and Lennox never ko'd a man past the 8th round, so over 12 rounds I give Vitali the edge, over 8 Lennox