Which resume is better for Marcianos career?

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Marcianos actual resume

    Jersey Joe Walcott 2x
    Joe Louis
    Ezzard Charles 2x
    Archie Moore
    Rex Layne
    Roland Lastarza 2x
    Harry Kid Matthews
    Don ****ell


    What if Marciano went 49-0 but piled up this resume instead?

    Jersey Joe Walcott 2x
    Floyd Patterson
    Harold Johnson
    Nino Valdes
    Clarence Henry
    Rex Layne
    Hurricane Jackson
    Earl Walls
    Roland Lastarza
    Bob Satterfield
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I'd pick him to beat everyone on the second list. It wouldn't change where I rank him all time and apart from Valdes it wouldn't answer how he would cope with big class heavies
    .I think Valdes is overated anyway.
     
  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In retrospect I think Marciano certainty fought the better men but because of the emphasis these days on size, I would have liked to have seen him KO Valdes , Moore and Walcott beat a few guys on the 2nd list and beat the guys that beat the guys that are on the 2nd list.

    I think had Marciano gone the way of Holmes and fought the lesser men of his day he would have been criticized today even more.

    Kockel could have been replaced with Valdes but Nino was also beaten 2X by Moore who was talking a lot of smack about Rocco
     
  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    there were no big heavyweights at the time other than Valdes and Baker and they were beaten by the 5"10 Bob Satterfield who was beaten KO'd in 2 by Charles and beaten by Moore. and the 5"10 Johnson also beat Valdes and others but stopped by Moore
     
  5. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    It would make little to no difference, he beat what was in front of him, and the 2nd list is no better in terms of competition than the first.

    It still gives him less than 40% chance of beating Liston, Ali, Frazier ( increases odds to about evens ) Foreman, Holmes, Tyson. Holyfield, Lewis, or the K2 brothers.

    If it's any consolation I'd give him a more than even chance of beating the hapless Ruiz who won, lost, and drew with the 38 - 39 year old Holyfield.
     
  6. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano vs Satterfield would have been interesting...
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Rocky beat who was available there is no argument about that.
    I have several times said ,I think he beats all the guys he missed.
    I don't know how I can be fairer than that?