Which style is harder to beat: Pure boxers (out-fighters) or Swarmers (in-fighters)

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2 different kinds of nightmare scenarios for boxers to deal with; either by getting frustrated and being outboxed or getting consistently punished and beaten up on the inside. Out of the 2 styles of boxing which one has always been the more difficult style for fighters to overcome? Fighters that are out of reach and constantly moving (and perhaps fighting in a negative run/grab style) or fighters that are always in your face and punching non stop?
     
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  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    A swarmer because you're getting an ass whooping win or lose. You might beat a swarmer 12-0 but you will feel it the next morning. Check out Pacquiao Margarito.
     
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  3. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights.
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on who the swarmer is and who's the boxer
     
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  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    David Benavides.
     
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  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One things for certain, I would rather get my ears boxed off than having someone swarm all over me and then having to feel the pain constantly. I'd get in the ring with someone like Devin Haney or Shakur Stevenson over Subriel Matias.
     
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  7. captain hook

    captain hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've been in ring with both styles and it depends on who you are boxing with. Loosing from both styles can be damaging, plus the embarrassment you can feel when you follow a boxer and can't cut the ring efficiently, or when he turns you and makes you look stupid, or when you punch the air, and of course when he punches you with sharp straights which you don't see. I had better time with swarmers, if I get overwhelmed I can always clinch, hold and rest. Mostly they have the same rhythm, you know that he gonna punch when he closes the distance, you know if it's gonna be bombs or combinations after 1min in the ring.

    the worst are versatile boxers, who can do a little bit of everything. When he sluggs with you, you start beating him, and then he turns to boxer and ****s you up, and then again gets back to slugging to finish you off. I've boxed amateurs, so sometimes there was a little time to adjust, these were mostly 100+ fights amateurs.
     
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  8. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Swarmers in general tend to win out against pure boxers if they can close the gap, so they would be the harder style to beat.
     
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  9. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    As another person who’s boxed, I agree with all of this.

    it depends on your own personality and style as a well as the opponents.

    For me, fighting a swarmer in a tough tear up was fun, even if I was on the losing end of it, and it kept me mentally locked in. I was a pretty aggressive fighter with a high output myself, so no surprise here. It’s also worth nothing that you can be a counter punching “swarmer” or in-fighter who can box and be defensive at that mid-close range, and I’d consider myself as being like that.

    Getting out boxed from a distance, it’s easier to get discouraged and mentally out of it - and I’ve even felt frustrated like this in fights I’ve WON against opponents who had more defensive styles that were hard to get to.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Problem is a lot of pure boxers/slicksters these days, or rather ones who graduated from a fear based school of slickness, rely on excessive holding and numerous other unmanly cowardly tactics like running, ducking below waist level, smothering, and stiff-arming to 'outbox' their opponents as opposed genuine legal skills and obviously it's much easier to get away with this is you have home refs all the time to turn a convenient blind eye to it and allow you to get away with it which is essentially a tag-team partnership of corruption and cowardice.

    Even worse, fans part with their hard earned money to watch them fight and be entertained and this is how these gutless maggots repay them - by stinking out the joint and sending them to sleep


    And yes, it's obviously extremely frustrating for their opponent who is just trying to close the distance in order to have a good old-fashioned honest fight, and that frustration is exacerbated ten-fold when they also realize that the ref is batting for their opponent's team.

    These are not real fighting men or warriors. They're gutless beta chickens and they need to be banished from the gene pool, let alone the sport.

    I'd rather burn in hell for all eternity than hug another man out of fear of them, god forbid, landing punches on me and if my father caught me running around the ring in mortal fear of getting clipped by the wind of a punch he'd beat me like a dog.

    Self-preservation is instinctive but at the expense of self-respect and honour? Never. Not now, not ever. No sirree.. that's ain't me and if it's you, shame on you. Shame on you x 2
     
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  11. No_name_tard

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    50/50. A good swarmer is worse from the perspective of a boxer because he comes in to put hurt on you.
     
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