which superfight will be best?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by warrior85, Oct 20, 2007.


  1. PeterNielsen70

    PeterNielsen70 Active Member Full Member

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    You are not a boxing fan then, I recon?
     
  2. Relentless

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    if only shane had smokin joe calzaghe's resume...........
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If only he had beaten all those fighters on his resume.

    Then he would not only have a good resume but would have proven himself to be an unbelievable skilled fighter, similar to Calzaghe.

    Resumes do not support a case of arguing a fighter better than another when the other fighter is undefeated.
     
  4. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    i got to agree about the last bit:think
     
  5. Relentless

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    you can suck him off aswell....
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Logically what definitive proof can there be Mosley is superior to Joe Calzaghe based on an argument around 44-4 vs 43-0.

    You can suggest a possibility of such potenitally exists (even that is far fetched, this is Joe Calzaghe). But you cannot come out with a definitive statement. It is totally irrational and typical of an American Media influenced boxing fan.
     
  7. Relentless

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    shane mosley has.....

    vernon forrest
    oscar de la hoya
    winky wright
    fernando vargas
    Miguel cotto (soon)

    compare that to calzaghe's
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Can Europeans be irrational as well because of the media over there?
     
  9. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ****ing sure we can. Sure the English media actually believed that England could win the Rugby world cup...............now that's ****ing irrational:D
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which part of that gives us a clear indication that Mosley is superior to Calzaghe?

    What part of Calzaghe's L-0 indicates this? No part. I advice all Americans to find something more substansial than this silly resume rubbish if they wish to rubbish the great Joe Calzaghe.

    If Calzaghe had ever lost to any of his world class opposition, they would have a case. But for all we know, based on his resume alone Joe Calzaghe's ability might well be limitless.

    If you wish to argue against his brilliance based on technical arguments, you will also fall flat.
     
  11. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess Sven Ottke's better than Nigel Benn because he has no losses as well, but the reason the 0 is there is because he never fought anyone good.
     
  12. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    Cotto vs. Mosley.
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I said on resume alone you cannot argue anything definitive. You accidently agreed with me 100%.

    Ottkes ability based on resume could potentially be limitless.

    But factor in video of him and knowledge of robberies and it becomes clear Benn was a little superior.


    Calzaghe vs Mosley, resumes give us nothing. Then we watch video, see Calzaghe is invincible and we all agree Calzaghe is the superior fighter.
     
  14. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If I did agree with you thats fine, I just feel that the 0 doesnt matter unless you beat good fighters keep that 0. Take Valuev for instance, the guy won what like 46 matches in a row, the best fighter he beat in doing so was John Ruiz. All Im saying if your the supposed best you should fight the best, if Calzaghe wins this will be his greatest victory IMO.
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

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    And the reverse is true. The fact Calzaghe hasn't beaten a Sugar Ray Robinson doesn't indicate to us Calzaghe is limited. It raises a questionmark, but nothing more.

    Therefore relentless saying something about Mosley's resume indicating he is better than Calzaghe is foolish. Infact Mosleys shut-out loss to Wright indicates Mosley is likely inferior to Joe. Based on resumes alone, your best educated guess can only lead to you seeing Calzaghe as the better fighter.