Which THREE FIGHTS for LUCIAN BUTE after Berrio to prepare for CALZAGHE + KESSLER?***

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  1. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I totally agree with this assessment, as it is where I stand:lol:. Its the smartest thing - and no one will hate him for it, I reckon.
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Inkin and Froch better get it on...otherwise they will be left behind. There is no way in hell either could beat Kessler though, not in 6 months, not in 9, not in a year, not ever!
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    It's not likely that anyone except for Dawson and Calzaghe beat Kessler from the the 160-175 general crop, he's just too damn good and you need superior speed to offset his rythym for a victory.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :good any revised thoughts on the next 3 fights for Bute after Berrio to prepare him for Kessler? (Notice how I'm NOT saying that he would beat Kessler even if he were to win the next 4 fights...)
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    If Kessler and Bute do get matched up down the road, put 500 pounds on Kessler, you WON'T lose, impossible.

    Anyway,

    Veit, Mundine, Inkin were my picks and I stick to those, he'd have his work cut out for him in Mundine and Inkin and it would show good things from Bute if he beat both clearly.

    Even if he did however, Kessler still chops him to pieces and sends him home bloody and battle torn, while walking away with no scratch on his face and going come to most likely some fit bird.:lol:
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol: And I would walk home proud that Bute has faced the best and done his all to win!:happy

    Hands up if you think that it would be good for Bute as a man and as a boxer, and not least, for his career, if he faced Kessler in 12-15 months!
     
  7. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    They should have the chance to do so.

    I would hate Kessler for saying that the crop were beneath him, if he handles Calzaghe, only to aim at the more well-known fighters. He should clean out 168 before doing anything else - or at least attempt to do so. After that - he can do whatever he wants.

    I don't disagree with your assessment - but he has to prove it also by facing them.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I couldn't bet against Bute...I just couldn't...remember, you couldn't bet against JC either...;)
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I think MK's about as good for boxing as it gets. Intelligent, classy, charismatic to a point and astonishingly skilled, also, he seems to want to face the best and took fights that he didn't have to already and passed with flying colours...

    But Calzaghe will beat him, and that won't take away from him.

    Dawson will also beat him, that won't take away from him either. Both of these guys are stylistic nightmares for him and would finish what Mundine laid down in terms of speed/swarming upsetting Kessler's game.

    Every other fighter from 160-175 doesn't just lose, but they lose in shutout/destruction fashion and the tactical displays will be some of the best exhibitions from the Euro boxer-puncher style ever, so I am very excited whenever MK has a fight coming up.

    He'll likely clean 168, but he will lose to Calzaghe, which is why Palle is being such an utter ****.:deal
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Amsterdam, we'll see!;)
     
  11. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I agree that loosing to these two guys won't take much away from him.

    I am also glad to see that finally someone agrees with his almost flawless boxer-puncher style.

    However, I am not certain, that Calzaghe possesses the necessary speed at this point to close Kessler down. How Kessler would fare at 175 is uncertain also. I think its too early to say that Dawson would best him. It takes more than speed to beat him, imo - it takes a perfect gameplan, intelligence and/or experience - Dawson doesn't possess experience at this point.

    If both wins vs Kessler, its because they are simply better fighters, not because of superior speed.
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :good
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    The way I see it is that they are all over the same level in terms of the skill/intangible/experience comparison, Calzaghe having the experience and the intangibles of frantic relentlessness and a good chin, Dawson having a flawless defence and amazing accuracy/speed and Kessler having flawless aspects of his own style with extremely great poise.

    So at that point, it's even up to such a fine point, that a simple factor like superior speed and stylistic advantage will be enough to "edge" it in terms of getting the victory...

    By the way, Calzaghe gets everybody.;)
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Now that conversation has moved on to Kessler, whom should he face after Calzaghe? Let us assume that the following fight would be in March-April 2008...
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Well, any of the other top 10 would be perfect comeback opponents after a bad loss.:yep :yep