Which type of win is the most dominating?

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  1. TheFlyingMan

    TheFlyingMan Keyboard Warrior No More Full Member

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    Would love to hear what you guys think. It's easy to say "early KO", but one can argue that an early KO is a fluke. Or the guy "got caught", or he was a better boxer but the other fighter just had more power.

    On the other hand beating someone on points over 12 rounds but not getting any KO might seem dominating to some (I'm thinking of Ali in that fight someone described as a child pulling the wings of a fly or something - was it Patterson?). So I just wanted to see what the majority view is.

    *edit: OK did some research. It was Patterson, but the fight was stopped in the 12th round.
    From the website I found:
    "About the champ's second title defense, The Times' Robert Lipsyte writes: "Like a little boy pulling off the wings of a butterfly piecemeal, Cassius Clay mocked and humiliated and punished Floyd Patterson for almost 12 rounds tonight until the referee halted their heavyweight championship bout because the challenger was 'outclassed.'" "

    Assuming a 12 rounder:
    A) KO / TKO in first round
    B) winning all rounds en route to an early KO (e.g. round 4)
    C) winning all rounds en route to a mid-late KO (e.g. round 10)
    D) winning all rounds but no KO
     
    TheFlyingMan, Jan 10, 2009
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  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Definetly winning all the rounds up to an early KO in the 4/5th.

    Tyson vs. Bruno I, comes to mind.
     
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  3. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pbf gatti
     
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  4. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Winning all rounds to an early KO.

    1st round KOs are massively overrated in terms of how good/bad a fighter is.
     
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  5. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis V Tua...and even better Calzahge v Lacey - they were 12 punishing rounds were Lacey always had a "hope" but really was just humiliated and shown up for the whole fight. The opponent probs would like to go the distance but maybe after its over may have wished not the day after as they're usually very sore all over after being punished over 12 long rounds.

    In terms of health risks I guess a 1st round KO is probs less damaging than being battered for 12 rounds.

    In terms of damage mentally to a fighter being whupped every round of a fight destroys your confidence...a quick KO loss you can tell yourself that you got caught cold and maybe next time you'd take it better...a total ass whoopin would leave you with what?
     
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  6. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Winning every round and then finishing it off with a ko.
     
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  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Getting dominated in the "sweet science" and being completely outclassed is most impressive to me. Examples like Winky/Tito, Hopkins/Pavlik, Calzaghe/Lacy. Guys that were so much better and superior than their opponent that the can play around in the ring.
     
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  8. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Yeh but why fight Margarito when you can fight Gatti..........:good
     
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  9. MattMattMatt

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    I would say that a late stoppage after sweeping the cards is the most dominating usually. There are a few exceptions - Tyson v Spinks being one, that was pure short term domination.
     
    MattMattMatt, Jan 10, 2009
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  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Gatti vs Gamache.
     
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  11. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, i didn't realize that there was an option for dominating for most of the fight then winning via KO late. That would be my choice.
     
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  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I like a domination on way to a late stoppage.

    It depends on the opponent though. If its a lesser opponent its better to stop him early, otherwise question marks against your power.

    Against a quality operator, if you dominate all rounds and KO him late that shows everything to me. Great boxing ability, stamina, concentration and finally the power.
     
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  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes.

    A lengthy lesson is dished out and then a stoppage caps it all and puts the exclamation point on it.
     
    cuchulain, Jan 10, 2009
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  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    It really depends on the manner in which the rds are won, each fight is different.
     
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  15. TheFlyingMan

    TheFlyingMan Keyboard Warrior No More Full Member

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    Thanks guys, great discussion!
     
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