Which was the better Hopkins ? Calzaghe's or Jones' ?

:good.........Calslappy can rest on his laurels,history will show him as having a fraudelent career!!!!!

 

calzaghes was an adaptable fighter with a wider range of skills and tactics

jones was a little more durable and energetic

all in all i think calzaghes was better but thats not to say either were his perfect prime

 

I think both versions were great, but Joe's, although not in his pysical prime, was in his boxing skills prime, if that make sense. The pavlik fight showed he was still a devastating fighter too with decent enough stamina. I think if joe had fought the earlier version of Hopkins it would have been a nicer fight to watch though with far less spoiling, i personally think the best version of Hopkins was his mid to late 30's,possibly very early 40s too. He was before prime with Jones by a few years and perhaps after a few years with Joe, so i give the prime version of B-hop the same ability as those two P4P personally. Hopkins was really incredible in his prime. The Bhop Joe fought is the slightly better version imo.

 

The fighter Joe fought was much better, The one the Jones fought had not yet meet a single fighter of recongnition yet and was quite inexperience. I mean Jones was the first fighter that he ever fought that was of champion caliber. The one that Joe fought had many year behind him, much confidence and knew how to control the ring.

 

The 28 year old Hopkins that fought Jones was a little green,but ranked just under Jones-1 and 2 in the middleweight division.In those days,he boxed and moved,throwing punches from various angles,etc.He had stamina and athleticism.The Hopkins that fought Calzaghe was a thrower of 1-2 punches at a time and then grab.How easy it is to forget that the Hopkins that Calzaghe fought was the same one that had already lost twice to Jermaine Taylor.Does anyone out there believe that the Hopkins that fought Jones would have lost twice to Jermaine Taylor?I didn't think so.All the Pavlik fight proved was how one-dimentional Kelly was.If the Bhop that fought Joe was that good,does that make Taylor an ATG?Of course not.

 

I'd take a 28 version of Hopkins rather than the 43 year old version.

 

Saying that Hopkins wasnt in his prime at 28 when he fought JOnes is purely moronic...Hopkins was a better fighter then, problem is no one would fight him so he didnt get a chance to prove how good he was. Hopkins was ****ing 43 years old when he fought Calzaghe...The lack of knowledge here or nut riding or Hate here is unreal....

 

Because at 28 Hopkins could actaully do more then KNOW what to do, he could actaully still do it...At 28 or even 38 Hopkins would have beatten Joe.:good

 

Oh, I just noticed the date of this thread....Nevermind, it was shortly after the fight between Joe and Hopkins, so it would be somewhat understandable that many lessers would have voted so heavily for Joe....atsch

 

how can you say that when he had already been beaten twice by taylor? hopkins over the years, was relegated to throwing one punch at a time? while he wasnt as great defensively around the time he fought jones, he was much better offensively, thowing combiantions, putting punches toghether, although he wasnt able to do that against a much qucker jones. and he still gavce jones a decent fight. jones during those days was knocking people out or barely losing 1 rd.

 

I scored it the exact same way. First four to Hopkins and the 10th, only difference is that for some reason I also gave him the 6th and not the 7th. :blood

 

Joe's by far.

 

2 problems with this, first the 28 year old wouldn't "KNOW" how to do it because he didn't have the experience, look at Pavlik, he doesn't "KNOW" how to do it because he doens't have the experience that Hopkins does. And second are you arguing that a 38 year old Hopkins would win againts todays Joe? woudnl't it be better to argue if they both meet 5 years ago when both where more in their prime? If so, then you'd have a Joe that was younger as well, and that Joe would punch much better even though his hands were starting to brake down around that time.